"bridge" pickup in neck position?
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45auto
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hmm, i was thinking on a one conductor shielded, i wouldn't want the braid/shield to be the "hot" wire, but we're talking ac here anyway i guess!
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fillmore nyc
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You CANT have the braid hot, cause the grounded braid is part of the "noiseproofing" for the wire itself, and especially you cant do it if the pup has a cover, cause then the cover will be hot and not grounded, which will cause T-H-E****N-O-I-S-E****F-R-O-M****H-E-L-L ! ! !45auto wrote:hmm, i was thinking on a one conductor shielded, i wouldn't want the braid/shield to be the "hot" wire, but we're talking ac here anyway i guess!
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OMG! I figured it out.
The only reason that Gibson transitional PAF to PAT# pickups always have PAT# in the bridge position, and PAFs in the neck is the length of the wire.
At some point, the PAT# decals show up, and that next order is speced for 8 inches of wire, instead of 12.
Turns out all the hype could be in the wire length making the front pickup sound better! ALWAYS A PAF!
I am changing all my Fenders over to early long Gibson wire. I suggest you all do the same.
M
The only reason that Gibson transitional PAF to PAT# pickups always have PAT# in the bridge position, and PAFs in the neck is the length of the wire.
At some point, the PAT# decals show up, and that next order is speced for 8 inches of wire, instead of 12.
Turns out all the hype could be in the wire length making the front pickup sound better! ALWAYS A PAF!
I am changing all my Fenders over to early long Gibson wire. I suggest you all do the same.
M
I hope it's not that deadly black mold that makes all my gear smell good.
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45auto
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now i'm confused, maybe i'm not picturing this right. old style pickups have a single conductor & the braid/shielding. are'nt these each one end of the pickup coils in series? yeah, i would think the braid would be connected more than likely to the base plate of the pickup too. i'm probably just having a friday afternoon brain fart...
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fillmore nyc
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The braid IS connected (usually soldered) to the baseplate. The hot lead inside the braid connects to one lead of the 1st coil, the opposite lead of the 1st coil is connected to the 2nd coil, and the opposite lead of the 2nd coil is usually soldered to the baseplate also.
Thats why if you tap the pickup by grounding the joint between the 1st and 2nd coil, you get that single coil-y sound, cause the 2nd coil is outta the picture.
Usually thats done with 4 conductor wire, but some companies (like PRS) just run a lead from the connection of the coils out with the regular pup wire. If you dont use a tap, you just tape it off. If you DO use a tap, you just need to connect that one wire to a switch and tap away!!
(so in this way, coil tapping a gibson pickup with shielded braid 2 conductor wire IS possible).
Thats why if you tap the pickup by grounding the joint between the 1st and 2nd coil, you get that single coil-y sound, cause the 2nd coil is outta the picture.
Usually thats done with 4 conductor wire, but some companies (like PRS) just run a lead from the connection of the coils out with the regular pup wire. If you dont use a tap, you just tape it off. If you DO use a tap, you just need to connect that one wire to a switch and tap away!!
(so in this way, coil tapping a gibson pickup with shielded braid 2 conductor wire IS possible).