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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:39 pm

TubeToneFreak wrote:
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TubeToneFreak wrote:Being a "noob" to the more classic styles of Marshalls and not knowing nearly as much about the Jimi catalogues, what would be my best bet amp wise (what tubes KT66 or EL34? and R/S or Marstran Trans.?) for the follwing songs as they sound on best of/ experienced:

1. Voodoo Chile (SR) 2. Purple Haze 3. Wind Cries Mary 4. Red House 5. Along the Watch Tower

6. Foxey 7. Castles Made of Sand

Much appreciated, and good to find people who obsess about the detials and music as well. :)
No Radiospares for jimi.here's a guess
1: el34 100w 1202-119/132, perhaps even dagnall 1.5". prob axis fuzz or an germanium fuzzface with an buffer (ala mayer classic-x) between wha and fuzz in order to get rid of oscillation
2-4, 6: jtm45/100 kt66, octavia, germanium fuzz face
5: 2" drake (1202-84/119/132), prob el34s and a 10000 series or a black flag. a cleanish fuzz, possibly an axis with vol high and fuzz low
7: el34 1202-119 black flag for dirty tone and sound city for clean tone.

good compromises:
- 45/100
- 10000 series (or even black flag)
Awesome! So a Metro JTM-45 (other then power whats difference from 45/100 and 45?) with Marstran Trannies, Sozo Vintage Tone Caps, Carbon Comp, Rikken Ohm Resistors or other high end where available, SkipZ Power Scaling Mod.

What would be top 3 choices for each of the other type capacitors and +/- of each?

Who knows of a really good FX Loop mod/kit thats totally out of circuit when off with input/output adjustments?

Who knows of a good Channel and FX switching mod/kit?

Thanks Guys!
no, you need a 45/100 not a 45. different sound and response and just 4 db louder.
you hardly need the carbon comps, perhaps a 56k and a 27k (and a few 820s) but that's about it. Try a 2x12 with a M75 and H75 65w scumbacks.

try the larry loop or the loop sold in the metro store
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by antosimoni » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:36 am

sorry but need some info from hendrix experts here :wink: : at woodstock there were 3 amps behind Mitch which were a couple old ones (no grill vent up and small one behind) and a 3rd later one then 2 amps behind jimi which seem SL, does he has used the ones behind mitch or the other couple???
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Tone-Freak » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:32 pm

Jimi had three stacks super leads behind him on the other side are two fifty watt stacks that the bass is pluged into and one super bass stack that larry lee the other guitar player is pluged into which is normaly billy's stack. I dont understand why billy is pluged into larrys 50 watt stacks and larry into billys 100 watt but if you watch the video very closly you can see at points where their cords go to. The no grill vent are small box 50 watters. They have casters on them too. Hendrix's normal back line did not use casters :D

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by antosimoni » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:23 pm

thanks :D
theres a ton of wires up there
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:56 am

Just read Ultimate Hendrix: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Live Concerts and Sessions. Found some interesting details:
- gipsy eyes was recprded april the 29th 1968 with a bassman top. this could have been a blonde bassman or one of the blackface circuits.
- kramer claims that a bassman top also was used on the voodoo child (blues jam) recorded the 2nd may, but that sounds like a jtm to me.
- voodoo child (slight return) was recorded the 3rd of may. you can actually hear some clearish guitar at 6-7 seconds before the end of the track. right side sounds like a jtm to me. not sure about the left side. appears to be a quite bright and aggressive fuzz.
- june 10, 1968: rainy day, dream away/still raining, still dreaming: a "small, blonde, thirty watt fender showman", according to the keyboards player. since no such amp exists, this is likely to be a blonde tremolux or bassman top, possibly the 6g6 used on gipsy eyes.
- june 14, 1968: south saturn delta: LP special and a fender amp
- last track recorded for electric ladyland: august 27, 1968: come on (let the good times roll)

According to Setting the records straight Hendrix got new marshalls in july 68 (and sunn amps [that hendrix apparently didn't like] in february 68). He is reported to have amp problems the 10th of may 68 (Ultimate hendrix, p. 103)
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Tone-Freak » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:04 pm

Roe wrote:
According to Setting the records straight Hendrix got new marshalls in july 68 (and sunn amps [that hendrix apparently didn't like] in february 68). He is reported to have amp problems the 10th of may 68 (Ultimate hendrix, p. 103)
Interesting If you look at the marshall book by Doyle the picture on p.89 is taken from Nov 68 after the time you said he got new amps and he is using old pinstrips. Here is the picture from Doyle saying Nov 68 with old amps. They are Super Trem's
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The same ones in this picture

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:39 pm

thanks for the pics. I believe the last pics give a good impression of what was going on in this period: hendrix was using both the new and the old amps (and cabs) at the same time
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:19 am

one very basic and pretty obvious thing is that hendrix often used a room/vocal mike as well as a close miking. you often hear most of the latter on one side and most of the former on the other side. hendrix recorded in pretty big rooms and the room sound definitely contributes to the sound
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Post by Roe » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:53 am

apparently Eric johnson was on tour with steve miller and Gerry Stickles, Hendrix gear guy, was working with steve miller.
Ej asked him while on tour about what amps jimi used on electric ladyland, he said jtm 100 with 2.5" transformers

the bird who told me this said he got the info from Jimi's roadie Gerry stickels, Mitch Mitchell. Also, he talked to EJ
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by VintageCharlie » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:13 am

Hi guys!

Sorry for reviving this old thread, but these questions have been and still are creeping up in my mind. I mean no disrespect to anyone, but there ha so much been stated about Jimis gear and so little has been backed up with some sort of documents (what might these be - receipts?) or photographs. I would like to reconstruct most of this info by the means of available photographs of Hendrix live and in studio.
And there are tons of pictures online, only they have to be organized, dated and structured in a way that they become a proper tool. For this i started a thread on the crosstowntorrents.org forum: http://www.crosstowntorrents.org/showth ... -in-studio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I asked people to contribute pictures of his live and studio setups. Specifically it would be great if the pictures could be grouped or organaized in a way that specific pieces of gear can be identified and attributed to a certain time-frame.

What i came accross myself while going through the first couple of hundred pictures ,was a rather surprizing find to me - the black flag amp, which could be identified as such thanks to the great picture shakti posted in another thread over here, can be easily identified due to its tolex's damage or paint on it. By this it is possible to prove that the black flag amp shows up at least as late as november 68, when it is combined with what seems to be either a loaned or belonging to Jimi JMP stack.

And it looks like Jimi used the same amps and cabs (also identifiable by damage to the pinstripe grill cloth) in the studio for the electric ladyland sessions. Which is what has been stated here already, but it is nice to have it backed up with pictures.

I would be happy if you guys, who as i have come to experience, are vbery knowledgeable about Marshalls and Hendrix stuff, would contribute to that thread. Just to try to go by pictures, with as little speculation as possible, would be an interesting approach.

Also, by following this black flag lead, i noticed that he consistently really used Bass labeled pinstripe cabs - so the supposed myth about bass cab preference might be more than just a myth or a matter of getting loaned equipment. One of these cabs can also be identified (or so i think) in the electric ladyland recording sessions - the one slant cab with the square-shaped grill cloth damage.

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:30 am

Charlie, there's more pics in a couple of threads I started at crosst some time ago. See

http://www.crosstowntorrents.org/showth ... only/page6
http://www.crosstowntorrents.org/showth ... #post73574'http://www.crosstowntorrents.org/showth ... #post73571

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by VintageCharlie » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:48 am

Thanks for the links, Roe!

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by yngwie308 » Sun May 25, 2014 11:51 pm

Roe wrote:
Germanium_Boy wrote:Hendrix used to play, for a short time, with a Marshall and Sound City stack, but only in live shows. It said that he played with Sound City due to the influence of Pete Townshed and The Who. Here is a photo of that time...
No, he used the sound city for the clean sounds on Axis
Definitely Sound City's for the clean stuff as they were the predecessors of the Hiwatts, definitely mega-clean there!
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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by frenchie » Fri May 30, 2014 3:55 pm

i've got my own idea for the super clean sounds around 67

http://www.wtv-zone.com/ruexperienced/g ... ov24_a.jpg

i wonder why people always take sunn amps out of the equation , there's a reason why real historians stick to proven facts ….

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Re: Hendrixs amps time line?

Post by Roe » Sat May 31, 2014 6:50 am

frenchie wrote:i've got my own idea for the super clean sounds around 67

http://www.wtv-zone.com/ruexperienced/g ... ov24_a.jpg

i wonder why people always take sunn amps out of the equation , there's a reason why real historians stick to proven facts ….
any proof of sunn amps being used in Europe?
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