Ritchie Blackmore

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Did J » Wed May 08, 2013 7:52 am

I thank you Max for posting your work, you give me the key for Picture Of Home (some interrogations about few liks:twisted: ), you're right guy very talented (i mean it's possible to cover realy well Ritchie:wink: ) 8)

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by NY Chief » Wed May 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Right on, max!!! Great job!! :clap: :rock: :thumbsup:
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by mAx___ » Wed May 08, 2013 6:39 pm

Thanks guys! I'm glad you liked it and that the forum is working again!
DidJ, thanks! Tell me what questions you have about that solo. I should replace that version of Pictures of Home with a new one using the Major, it sounds so much closer to my ears. I'm doing some mods to it at the moment, if I like them I'll do a new version with the modded amp. :)

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by NY Chief » Sat May 11, 2013 12:33 pm

yngwie308 wrote:Here is some classic RB lads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJHyZG2 ... &index=966" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETeumVKe ... &index=965" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M82KgyZX ... &index=964" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ritchie a major influence on this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkEIWN-T ... &index=988" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgZSnAkQ ... &index=962" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Isolated track early VH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5mMWx2 ... &index=903" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2B8ii_ ... &index=444" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmXutNKVbM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They (Deep Purple) took down those incredible videos by Hidea I think was his name, he did an awesome version of Burn and a lesson as well, best I have ever saeen, Chief you remember that guy??
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Tone Slinger » Sat May 11, 2013 10:49 pm

Truly bad assed stuff there ! My three top guitarists (well.... top 5) Michael Schenker, Uli Jon Roth and Eddie Van Halen all 3, owe much dept to 'ol Ritchie. Be it euro/classical melodic lines, tremelo picked intensity or insane Whammy bar work, Ritchie got there first !
It's times like this though, that I'm reminded why Hendrix is still such a major icon. He was 'there' a few pages before Ritchie was, though each of the GREATS I've mentioned brought stuff to the table that no one else could.
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Did J » Mon May 13, 2013 4:32 pm

mAx___ wrote:DidJ, thanks! Tell me what questions you have about that solo.:)
Hey mAx! No more question, I downloaded your vids and that's enough for me to work on Pictures of Home! It's one of the Ritchie's solo I prefer so far.

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by yngwie308 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:13 am

Found it!! was reposted!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA5plyEd ... &index=698" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Did J » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:31 am

Good catch yngwie :)
These guys are really allright, I'm sure that all Ritchie's guitar and amp species are there too. Domo arigato!

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Tone Slinger » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:34 pm

That dude looked like a cross between Ritchie (1976 to present 'WIG' era :D ) and Tommy Bolin. The playing was there (studio version) for sure.

Here is where I call out 'overkill' though.

I look at it like this,

If we ALREADY have Ritchie's versions of these songs, what point is there to EXACTLY recreating them ? Play the record, ya know.

What I DO like hearing others do (concerning the style and tone of the known greats) is to sort of tap into these players improvisational spirit and ask "How might Ritchie have played this "? You end up, sometimes, with things that PUSH certain aspects of a players style into different territories, YET, retain an aspect that you WANT, from that player, whether it be tone or phrasing, etc.

Here again, what is the best choice here, listening to the actual original recording,OR, someone else sounding 99.999% like it ?
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by mAx___ » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:09 pm

In my case, chasing his sound and playing accurately the solos that made me pick up the electric guitar is some sort of tribute to Ritchie. But when I improvise I don't want to sound like him, I'm actually of the opposite view as yours. I don't like to hear guitarists playing "in the style of". It sounds silly to me. If I'm not paying tribute to one of my guitar heroes, then I rather sound like myself.

On a related note, to me the worst offenders are the ones that post guitar "lessons" on YouTube and they sound nothing like the original song they are trying to teach you! :lol:

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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Tone Slinger » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:31 am

I agree with your last comment, but on the former,let me give you an example of what I mean,

EVH claimed Clapton influenced him, right. Initially, its hard to tell, upon listening to Eruption, for instance. But, if you listen to the solo in 'Dancing In The Streets' or 'When Its Love', you hear a Clapton influence, yet its done in a way Clapton would have never done.
Another example is Ritchie Blackmore on 'You Fool No One'. Its Obvious that Ritchie was shooting for the vibe (and tone) of Hendrix on 'House Burning Down', yet, Ritchie made it his own, without totally erasing the Hendrix influence.

If I try to be TOTALLY original and methodically and logically try to be that way, I end up sounding like a cross between old McLaughlin, a staple gun and Bucket Head,so I dont bother :bang: :palm: , I just embrace my influences and deviate based on my inner soul :D
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by yngwie308 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:43 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:I agree with your last comment, but on the former,let me give you an example of what I mean,

EVH claimed Clapton influenced him, right. Initially, its hard to tell, upon listening to Eruption, for instance. But, if you listen to the solo in 'Dancing In The Streets' or 'When Its Love', you hear a Clapton influence, yet its done in a way Clapton would have never done.
Another example is Ritchie Blackmore on 'You Fool No One'. Its Obvious that Ritchie was shooting for the vibe (and tone) of Hendrix on 'House Burning Down', yet, Ritchie made it his own, without totally erasing the Hendrix influence.

If I try to be TOTALLY original and methodically and logically try to be that way, I end up sounding like a cross between old McLaughlin, a staple gun and Bucket Head,so I dont bother :bang: :palm: , I just embrace my influences and deviate based on my inner soul :D
Billy I don't have a clue what I sound like, my influences are so diverse. When I try Gary Moore stuff, which is what I feel I have the closest affinity for, just reading the tab and watching the online lessons, none of the videos sound like Gary Moore obviously.
Take for example the Phil Lynott composition "Military Man." The first solo, the slow one Gary often would improvise around it in the later eighties, but the notes of the 'stock' solo aren't that hard, but to get the feel is a whole different thing.
Luckily for me I have these tunes programmed in my head so once I learn the mechanics I can work on the phrasing.
Yngwie whom I listened to constantly for two years, I do not have a hope in hell of sounding like.
With my arthritis I cannot even begin to do the right hand never mind the left hand.
I enjoyed my 2004 Yngwie Strat, but with that damn 9.5" radius it made a big difference to me. I need that curvature to chord properly and the sucky part of my physical disability is quickly changing chord shapes, my fingers are so grossly swollen compared to even 10-12 years ago that it is very frustrating trying to make my fingers move accurately.. :cry: :cry:
Steve Stevens my other cat, his stuff is not bad to mimic, but the tone is all the marbles.
I am hoping for new inspiration with this new Metro True Replica Cab that I have in the works. I'm having George load it with the spanking new Celestion G12H-75 Creambacks, which I believe to be my dream speaker in comparison to those bloody G12H-30 Heritage's that came with my ex-Handwired cabs.
I have been looking into attenuation as I must tame my roaring Super Lead at home. I'm hot for the Friedman STFU, but $1K is rich for my taste for an attenuator. I don't know. George is too busy to mod a Power Soak to a dual channel like the STFU.
George does say it is so transparent it's like it is not there, his opinion I rate highly..we'll see.
Now that I am on a fixed income..disabled, can't gas like some may be able to do and I already sold 3 prized axes just to pay bills until i was finally approved the second time after being turned down at first.
I am happy with the tone of my Metrofied 1959HW and don't have any Friedman jones fortunately.
Sadly the new SS 100 amp I haven't really heard it properly, but it misses the mark for me.
I'm down to one left of my Heritage Gary Moore's, my 1983 '57 reissue Strat (Blackie), my two Washburn SS-80's and my replica Hamer SS-3 that was built for me.
I had to get rid of my smaller amps a few months ago to pay the interest in my wife's jewelry in the pawn shop, my Mini Marshall stack and my treasured Crate Vintage Club 30 with the uprated Celestion G12h-30 Anniversary speaker.
I got like $250 for both from Sam Ash.
Sorry this is a RB thread and folks don't need to hear my sob story, but I am getting there man, after having a 100 watt head with no speakers for at least almost 4 years now. I am hoping my electrolytic caps haven't dried up!!
Interesting that you say that DP track was patterned on House Burning Down, I will have to listen to that and check it out.
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by Tone Slinger » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:49 pm

I hear ya Dave, getting new gear is always a good thing :thumbsup: . I hope the new speakers give you what your looking for.
Fight that arthritis with everything you got man :rock: .

Ritchie seemed really influenced by Hendrix' "House Burning Down'. Parts of the solos in 'You Fool No One' have a definate 'HBD' influence to them, though Blackmore took it in his own direction.
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by yngwie308 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:07 am

I heard the DP track and agree that the solo is Jimi influenced with the flanger or whatever device Ritchie used.
Thanks for your encouraging words!:-)
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Re: Ritchie Blackmore

Post by NY Chief » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:01 pm

Yeah, Dave, give it all you got, bro, You're back on track! :rocker: :shred: :rock: :thumbsup: :clap:
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