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I agree, those two guys are very bit as good as eddie, they have their own styles and are brilliant players.hammered wrote:Michael Schenker and Gary Moore just off the top of my headT.J.Fuller wrote:
no one was in the ball park of Eddie and Randy during that early 80's time period
I don't think anything would have changed. Two different bands, two different styles of music.dirtycooter wrote:One has to wonder
If Randy had lived
Would Ed had the success that he did?
Would Randy maybe surpassed him somehow?
I have to feel deep down things would be different. I think what sucks most is that we never got to hear him grow further.
Randy had to put Ed at attention. Theres no doubt. How do you compete at that level?? Serious business for sure. Imagine if you will a Randy with 10, 15, or 30 more years under his fingers.
Its almost mind boggling to think of what woulda been.
I think it woulda came down to a serious rivalry later on. But in a good way.
Wasn't Randy thinking of retiring to classical guitar and teaching near the end?dirtycooter wrote:One has to wonder
If Randy had lived
Would Ed had the success that he did?
Would Randy maybe surpassed him somehow?
I have to feel deep down things would be different. I think what sucks most is that we never got to hear him grow further.
Randy had to put Ed at attention. Theres no doubt. How do you compete at that level?? Serious business for sure. Imagine if you will a Randy with 10, 15, or 30 more years under his fingers.
Its almost mind boggling to think of what woulda been.
I think it woulda came down to a serious rivalry later on. But in a good way.
I don't think Quincy Jones was gonna be calling Randy for the beat it solo. I'm sure Randy's talent would have continued to escalate but how many guitarists really succeed on a commercial level after leaving a major act like Ozzy. Randy's fans would have wanted him to stay in the vein of metal which I couldn't see happening. Who knows but I don't think it would have affected Eds sucsess one bit however we may not of learned of the awesome Jake E LeeSteadyEddie wrote:I don't think anything would have changed. Two different bands, two different styles of music.dirtycooter wrote:One has to wonder
If Randy had lived
Would Ed had the success that he did?
Would Randy maybe surpassed him somehow?
I have to feel deep down things would be different. I think what sucks most is that we never got to hear him grow further.
Randy had to put Ed at attention. Theres no doubt. How do you compete at that level?? Serious business for sure. Imagine if you will a Randy with 10, 15, or 30 more years under his fingers.
Its almost mind boggling to think of what woulda been.
I think it woulda came down to a serious rivalry later on. But in a good way.
I would agree with this. I think Randy's great, but Ed was/is in another class altogether.Just Mike wrote:I agree. Randy was good, but not in the same league as Ed. To me, and I was there, I'm 55 now and was playing the Southeast bar circuit '79 to about '90, and very aware of both, Ed was definitely the phenom. When Randy showed up with Ozzy, he raised some brows and was thought of as the "Classical influenced" answer to Ed, but I never thought he was close.
EVH had not only had the chops, but he had a very unique approach to song writing and structure.
Let me put it this way; When Van Halen came along, my reaction was "WTF is this?!?" When Blizzard of Ozz came out, my reaction was "This is pretty cool, Ozzy's found a good guitar player".
I am embarrassed to say that when i first heard him i hated it!Just Mike wrote: Let me put it this way; When Van Halen came along, my reaction was "WTF is this?!?" When Blizzard of Ozz came out, my reaction was "This is pretty cool, Ozzy's found a good guitar player".
for me back then it was eddie,eddie and eddie
This, except I think Ed rivals Randy for classical and baroque influences. Also, Gary Moore is a gargantuan player and Lynch can smoke it too, but for me the difference is in the songwriting. Lynch especially can't come close to Eddie for writing riffs, harmonic and melodic composition, powerful hooks, etc. all the stuff that's the real musical framework for soloing. I feel like Eddie is underappreciated as a song writer especially before he tried to become a songwriter with Hagar. Lynch is a great melodic soloist but the songs aren't there imho. Randy wrote some pretty damn awesome metal songs in that short period, better than Lynch for me albeit a little different flavor of metal. Like Ozzy differentiated about Brad Gillis one time, Brad wanted an audience full of screaming girls and Ozzy couldn't care less if the girls come to the show or not. Some great players were in bands that I couldn't get with the image of like Ratt, Dokken, and the other pop-Cali metal bands that came after VH. Now, give me some Dio with Vivian Campbell, oh yeah.mapat wrote:I would agree with this. I think Randy's great, but Ed was/is in another class altogether.
Ed is a genius, while Randy was a very, very good guitar player.
To me, Randy was always very straight up-and-down, which I attribute to his classical training and background, whereas Edward always displayed an incredible freedom of rhythmic groupings and phrasing across-the-barlines that reminds me alot of the very best jazz guys..
Some of the finest rock playing is from him with dioRich_D wrote: Now, give me some Dio with Vivian Campbell, oh yeah.
