"Dimebag" Darrell Shot Dead In Ohio Night Club

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:45 pm

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Or if ya can't sell 'em, do yourself a favor and at least WEAR one?

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:48 pm

Man I wanted to pull a Matrix and go through my computer and rip those two guys throats out over on the Plexi Palace forum. They have absolutely no clue. They have no understanding about the release that Metal gives to the daily grind for some. I have played Metal and Extreme Metal going on twenty years now. Not once have I ever entertained the thought of going through with hurting someone that I had misgivings about. You just walk away. Every metal show I have gone to there has NEVER been anything more violent than a fistfight that happened. Well once there was a guy who puylled a knife but he was sucker punched and ended up dropping the knife and proceeded to have his ass kicked by quite a few more people than he was originally fighting.

Yeah Im bummed about Darryl's passing. I think this is the first time that I have actually felt a mourning sorrow over someones death and this includes family members. I look at it as it was their time to go, not really right to go on about it. But this sucked ass. It wasn't a drug deal gone bad, it wasn't outside in the parking lot. It was while the guy was playing his dream to the fans he loved and who loved him. I can't tell you how I have been thinking about this today and what the ramifications will be regarding live shows.

DBD was at the stage in his career where he was at the comeback stage. A hard thing to do for some. Seeing that he was very popular. I can only forsee that some shithead politician will not treat this as a random act and write up a bill that will make it just about impossible for a club to hold a live show. Let alone a metal show. I actually hope that this incident passes the radar of the media rather quickly. Something tells me it wont though.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:15 pm

I know, man. I really think music is a release for the vast majority of people. I know I've spent my share of time pissed off cranking Metallica in the ol' Chevy in my younger days -- made me feel better when life was beating me upside the head to blow my ears and burn some rubber.
The bottom line is, it's not the music, it's not guns, it's not really any of these things that's the problem. There have been nut cases throughout history, long before metal and guns were created; it just seems that the advances of technology have made it easier for these cranks to do something meaningless and stupid. There was a time when it may have taken months of travel to dump hemlock in someone's drink; it's just easier now to charge a ticket on a plane and pick up that piece you just snagged on eBay and go off someone.
The nutcases have always been there, the tools are just more accessible today and easier to do harm with. And then the idiots blame the music and the gun. Stupidity is rampant these days.

myker · Post by **myker** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:27 am

I dont give a shit about what a person thinks about Dimebag Darrel, to even insinuate that anyone deserves to be shot at point blank range for the music that he or she makes is disgusting. to say something to that effect makes you very similar to the mother fucker that did this hanus act!
The guy(Dimebag) just wanted to rock, like all of us. only he was very successful. The guy that did this is a cock sucker i cant believe we have more cock suckers over at plexi palace that would side with this asshole(the shooter) by saying Darrel lived by the sword. Thats the problem with society today, people want to blame the victim, saying a woman gets raped because she wears revealing clothing, and that she was asking for it by dressing that way.
No one deserves to go out like that, no matter if you like his music or not...he was one of us, man. a fucking guitar player. at least he died doing what he likes best! ROCKIN'!
RIP Dimebag Darrell
Mike

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:48 pm

Man, I'm with you guys on this. "live by the sword, die by the sword"? You've got to be fucking kinding me. And to make a blanket statement like "people who play or listen to this type of music are disturbed and invoke violence" (not a direct quote) is just rediculous.

That guy obviously has had negative experiences that he associates with certain music. And worse yet, projects onto the artists and fans of certain music.

C'mon, if you can't show some compasion for a guy ho sat behind his drums on stage and watched his brother get shot in the head, 5 times, then I worry about your soul.

George

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:24 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote:-snip-
And to make a blanket statement like "people who play or listen to this type of music are disturbed and invoke violence" (not a direct quote) is just rediculous.
-snip-
George

Yeah exactly... Look at me. I am a perfect example of what you just said.

myker · Post by **myker** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:38 pm

I dont know about any of you, but i grew up in the punk and metal slam pits of southern california, and i never saw anything more violent than the occasional nazi fistfight. but those shit-heads were quickly delt with and delivered outside where they belong. I dont buy into this shit about any certain type of music breeding violence, why not just join the PMRC? Remember them? Just when you think you have heard it all..
mike

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:00 pm

myker wrote:I dont know about any of you, but i grew up in the punk and metal slam pits of southern california, and i never saw anything more violent than the occasional nazi fistfight. but those shit-heads were quickly delt with and delivered outside where they belong. I dont buy into this shit about any certain type of music breeding violence, why not just join the PMRC? Remember them? Just when you think you have heard it all..
mike

I've grown up in the Black / Death Metal crowds in Texas. Pretty much the same as you just a slightly different music style. My observations are pretty much the same as yours. This is what I meant from my previous post.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:23 am

Absolutely. You guys might not believe this, but I grew up playing the heaviest of heavy music. My band from the age of 17 to 22 was a straight ahead grind core/speed metal band. Our biggest achievement was opening for Overkill, what a show! Great memories.

Later on I went to see Tool in Detroit. I didn't understand the unspoken rules of the pit. And the Detroit skin heads beat the living fuck out of me to instill it in my head. Rotten, closet gay fucks.

Did I hold it against the band Tool? Of course not, though I wanted to. Surely they must have seen what was happening from the stage. Right?
Maybe they condone that stuff? I really don't think so, but it made me wonder. I mean, fuck. I had seen Slayer at the same venue (State Theater) and it was THE most insane pit I've ever encountered. Nobody beat the fuck out of anyone for standing in the wrong place at that show, or any of the other shows I went to.

All in all, I didn't blame the style of music, the band, the majority of the fans, the venue ect for the assinine acts of a few derilicts. And I think it's short-sighted for anyone else to do so. Period.

George

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:30 am

VelvetGeorge wrote:Absolutely. You guys might not believe this, but I grew up playing the heaviest of heavy music. My band from the age of 17 to 22 was a straight ahead grind core/speed metal band.

George

And then, George conquered the high seas and made the most startling discovery of all. TONE! Now, he's a changed classic hard rockin' guy!

Jon