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Post by WCR » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:44 pm

Still working on it Brutha Larry. Almost there, just minor tweaking. I see he just now got his old singer back. Lotta happy fans there....
What a GREAT suprise, I had no idea you were a member here. Jon sure loves the HELL outta your amp work. Did you get those pickups installed in anything yet?

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Post by novosibir » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:39 pm

WCR wrote:I see he just now got his old singer back. Lotta happy fans there....
That I may imagine, and Matt is probably 'the better voice/choice' for the Iced Earth music style. Tough I also loved Tim Owen's voice not badly.
WCR wrote:What a GREAT suprise, I had no idea you were a member here.
I'm still member on some other boards (TheAmpGarage, TGP, PlexiPalace), but this board here is by far my favourite board. You'll also see, that here are a lot of nice guys around!
WCR wrote:Jon sure loves the HELL outta your amp work.
:D Let's see, whether he still has words, when he'll get his first 'Jon Schaffer Signature Model' next year in about July or August :mrgreen:
WCR wrote:Did you get those pickups installed in anything yet?
Not yet. Jon had it in two of his Les Paul's on tour, but none loose left over. But I think, that it might be the 'right one' for the Les Paul, Jon gave me as a present. I've installed a Crossroads Neck and a Darkburst Bridge in it at the moment, but sometimes I'd like to have a tad more 'growl' from the Bridge PU, especially when I'm playing more kinda heavy stuff - so let's speak to each other soon :wink:

Have a great time here on this board!

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Post by 89custom » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:29 pm

WCR wrote:Hi guys,
Finally got some time to get in.
Oh jeez, there goes the neighborhood :roll:

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Post by gnugear » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:23 am

Can anyone describe the difference between the Darkburs (or Crossroads) to something like the Tom Holmes or Voodoo '59?
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Post by WCR » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:08 am

89custom wrote:
WCR wrote:Hi guys,
Finally got some time to get in.
Oh jeez, there goes the neighborhood :roll:
Hey, you get around, don't you......? Image

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Post by 5150loveeddie » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:10 pm

HEy just got my DB, wow best PU I got so play with, natural open musical and all...A5 is the mag, will try the other mags as Jim send me all of them...thx Jim...

One question, if I would like the PU the same as the DB but a hair hairier witch one should I go for, Godwood? Are those mag(s) will contribute in that matter instead??
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Post by WCR » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:43 pm

Yep, GW. And you can screw around with the mags in that as well.
I still have those clips I got from you I think last year. Man, that is some MONSTER playing Bro!
And the same goes for you Mark, I have repeatedly and shamelessly used and abused that clip you sent me over, and over, and over again......Image

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Post by 5150loveeddie » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:16 am

Very cool Thx Jim, A2 seems to be a better choice so far versus the A5 for me. Like Larry said basicly earlier here.....

Jim can you just tell us in brief what to expect with A3,4,8?? I know its details but details are the sh**t around here so...
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Post by gnugear » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:41 pm

Hey Jim, I'm interested in either the Crossroads or the Darkburst bridge. Are the pickups scatterwound and are they wax potted?

I hear so many good things about the Darkburst but the clips of the Crossroads really float my boat. Other than output are they pretty much the same?
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'70 Basketweave

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Post by WCR » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:39 pm

gnugear wrote:Hey Jim, I'm interested in either the Crossroads or the Darkburst bridge. Are the pickups scatterwound and are they wax potted?

I hear so many good things about the Darkburst but the clips of the Crossroads really float my boat. Other than output are they pretty much the same?
Scatterwound to me means lack of control. Mine are handwound, but I know right where it all goes..... lol DBs have a little more meat. Not alot, about .5k or so. Most like it with the stock A5, but occasssionaly someone will like an A2 instead. They are stupid-easy to swap.....
I don't use wax, I consider it a major tone-killer. But I have my own stuff I came up with that suppresses the squeals, but still allows the guitar's resonations come through. So you can hear the wood itself better.
I kinda look at it like this: Say you are driving a run-away truck down a steep InerState highway. Here and there you will see a run-away truck ramp. It goes uphill, and is full of loose gravel, so you sink right in and stop.
So if you can imagine the truck is your guitar resonations, and the wax as the run-away stop, you'll see what I mean......it prevents a lot of the axe itself from showing through. The stuff I use doesn't.

Here ya go JP. Quote from Page 3.

"On the magnet side of things. The weaker the mag, the rounder the top and bottom end, mids will stand out a little more, but also will be rounded off. Especially the upper-mids.
The stronger the mag, the tighter things become. You'll get more highs, and a bigger, but tighter low end. You'll get more , sharper articulation, especially in the mids and upper mids.
The mags I have , in order of strengths, are Alinico3,2,4,5, 8 and Ceramic 8. The 3 is the weakest, and although they are called Alnico3, they are not a true alnico. No cobalt. "

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Post by out of focus » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:40 pm

I got the Crossroads set. They are great pickups,so much harmonic bloom. I can't see using anything else. I just ordered some alnico II magnets from Jim to see what that would sound like. my les paul classic is 100% better with the Crossroads compaired to the ceramics that are factory installed and the burstbuckers that I put in it before the Crossroads. Great pickups Jim !!! :D

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Post by 5150loveeddie » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:54 pm

WCR wrote:
gnugear wrote: "On the magnet side of things. The weaker the mag, the rounder the top and bottom end, mids will stand out a little more, but also will be rounded off. Especially the upper-mids.
The stronger the mag, the tighter things become. You'll get more highs, and a bigger, but tighter low end. You'll get more , sharper articulation, especially in the mids and upper mids.
The mags I have , in order of strengths, are Alinico3,2,4,5, 8 and Ceramic 8. The 3 is the weakest, and although they are called Alnico3, they are not a true alnico. No cobalt. "
Ah ok I see now..........wow this is fucking crazy awesome pick up you have there Jim, that DB, just swap it with the A4 from the A2 and the A5 before that......shit they all sound great damn....

Jim I just ordered a Godwood, couldn't resist!!

Two more qts, is it possible to change the chassis of the pickup myseft, I like to butsher them?? Do you have shorter chassis where the screws goes, the lenght of those two legs that fit with the springs and screws??!! If so, can you use one for the Godwood instead of the "stock" one you have, need to have haft the lenght of those two legs if possible...

Godwood hey, like the name of that, my girlfriend call me that all the time!! :mrgreen:

You people should get the set of mags with your PU, it is as sensitive as our amp tweaks we all do around here....... :wink:

Jim can you check this out ? Thx!!
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Post by gnugear » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:37 am

Man, I'm on the fence ... I just can't decide between the Crossroads and the Darkburst :(

One more question ... can you get aged covers?
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'68 Basketweave with pre rola G12Ms
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Post by novosibir » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:50 am

gnugear wrote:One more question ... can you get aged covers?
I know, that he can - at least sometimes. But you also can order the PU's with brushed silver-nickel covers, what I did and IMO looks nice.

Compare it on the photo, where left you see my Historic with the shiney covers (and still the price sticker on the pickguard at that time :oops: ) and my 2003 Standard from Jon Schaffer in the middle, with brushed WCR's loaded:

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Jim also may deliver gold plated covers, as they are in my Hamer, seen right.

As for the magnets I can say, that I'm a fan of the A2's in the WCR's, which promote a more silky & bluesy sound, like I personally like it very much. For straight rock up to metal I'd rather recommend A5's in the PU's.

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Post by mayrandp » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:20 am

I'm curious novosibir, does the sound of your Hamer is close to the Les Pauls that you have or is it a different beast?

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