Temolo-ish Sound in "Wild Thing" Monterey Pop

[Brandon]

Alright you two, you both make some valid points, but ENOUGH of trying to prove how big your cocks are to each other, and please stop trolling the thread, ok?

Remember why we're here, to for

[Xplorer]

he didn't make any valid point, and he wanted to try to have the biggest cock ; )

I DIDN'T ; )

and i don't understand why he doesn't understand ( with all his provocations ) , why indeed, we're here to

for . For my part, that's why i'm here .

But what do you do, when someone keep not understanding, and doing provocations ? hm ? you simply state your point, like i did, trying to use some other words if he didn't understood the first time. ( 3,4 or five other trys in this case ) , without provocations, and trying to ignore the provocations, at least, trying not to answer it even if it's tempting.

[garbeaj]

ok, here it is :

http://marshallvintagemodern.com/viewto ... f=5&t=5992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds good and very close to the sounds on Monterey. I think the language barrier was causing the misunderstandings...I am grateful that you are indeed making the effort to speak English-my French is horrible, especially considering that my father was the first person in my entire family to speak English! (I am from South Louisiana)

I understand now that you meant to say that it was possible that the fuzz was on all the time. You were just trying to make the point about the crackling noises and I must say that those clips sound right on! I stand corrected!
If you read the thread where the guy posted these clips he says he has a '66 germanium Fuzz (which I think means Fuzzface) on for all the clips...

The thread is about the tremolo-ish sound (and not the crackling sound) and I believe that we all agree that the tremolo-ish sounds exist because the guitar was quite out of tune...

[Xplorer]

i appreciate. Yes, i was talking about the reason of the crackling amp, and as in this topic you're talking about monterey's amp, and wild thing ... why not let you know some good stuffs about this tone, that was the only thing i wanted to bring here.
I'm happy that you understand now.
With a fuzz , i don't know if another standard jtm45/100 will sound like this jimi hendrix amp ...

And yes, i was the first to say , here, that this tremoloish sound was caused by a dissonance of strings : two strings out of tune toward each other, and sustain, feedback ... i agree with it.

hopefully, i think that my english isn't so bad, and i still think that what i wrote could be understood the right way. But nevermind. i'm just here to discuss about some cool infos about Jimi, and if someone isn't agree with me about my infos and thoughts, he has the right to, and he doesn't necessarly need to attack my thoughts. We can discuss, we're civilized.

Nevermind. This amp is so cool, that's why i'm cloning it.

another one about this amp : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwyrs5pRaI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cheers,
Adrien

[Brandon]

The thread is about the tremolo-ish sound (and not the crackling sound) and I believe that we all agree that the tremolo-ish sounds exist because the guitar was quite out of tune...

It sounds like to me that the crackling and the tremolo sound are somehow related - they sound like they're happening at the same timing. I don't think it has to do with the out of tune guitar because you can still hear it when he's going crazy feeding back in the intro.

he didn't make any valid point, and he wanted to try to have the biggest cock ; )

I DIDN'T ; )

and i don't understand why he doesn't understand ( with all his provocations ) , why indeed, we're here to

for . For my part, that's why i'm here .

But what do you do, when someone keep not understanding, and doing provocations ? hm ? you simply state your point, like i did, trying to use some other words if he didn't understood the first time. ( 3,4 or five other trys in this case ) , without provocations, and trying to ignore the provocations, at least, trying not to answer it even if it's tempting.

I know what you mean, I think perhaps the internet is part of the problem, IOW only knowing what they are saying, but not how they are saying.

I personally either laugh or ignore people who try to provoke me because I know that they have no interest in my truth, they just want to fight and they don't care about what.

ANYWAY, yeah I'd really like to hear some clips of this amp you were talking about... or perhap an amp like it with similar OT specs?

[Xplorer]

no similar amp.
but yes, i've posted links allready.

[Xplorer]

"they sound like they're happening at the same timing. I don't think it has to do with the out of tune guitar because you can still hear it when he's going crazy feeding back in the intro."


my thought is that there are two origins for this tremoloish sound : sometimes it's because of some strings that aren't on the same frequency, fighting to each other, and sometimes, it could be the strings frequencys, fighting with the feedback frequency.
it happend to me sometimes. at huge levels it's easy to get it.

[Ydna]

I wish those clips had more playing and less feedback playing. Some rolled off chords and such. Not just max all the time.

[Xplorer]

yes ; ) but at least it' allready nice, and even incredibly awsome to have these clips ! ; )

[Brandon]

WOAH! Just had a listen to those clip, gives me a more clear perspective on what's going on with the tone. The thing just cuts out completely sometimes with that crackling!

I wonder if George would know how to replicate that...

After the "Woodstock" amp I'm having him build for me right now, I'm seriously considering a replica 45/100 Monterey as my next after it.

George had a 45/100 at the LA amp show that he said was "Monterey Specs", but it didn't have all of that snarl and crackle, maybe I just didn't get to play around with it enough.

Check out the LA amp show vid, and go to the very last clip, that me, I'm playing on the "monterey" 45/100 with a fuzz on an SG.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=890uLZQeJ9k[/youtube]

What do you think is the gap between the two?

[Xplorer]

yeah, single coils, other style of playing, different music, a 560V transformer with nos tubes, and that's it.

[Ydna]

Yea. I'm thinking about going with a woodstock 12,000, and a 45/100 after that. I love the sound of both amps.

[Xplorer]

ok, i didn't check the last clip at first, as you said.

So ... Who's the girl in the back ?

[swankmotee]

coming from the guy : "That was all part of the freak setup in his amp. No other amp in the world sounds like that one and it can't be duplicated."

SO , i still say that this cracks aren't caused by a fuzz, even if there might have some fuzz between the amp and the guitar.
the guy told me that it sounded fuzzy, even without the fuzz .

hope it's clear now.

Yeah it sounds dead on to the Monterey tones for sure but the fact that it is cutting out like that is very "bad" electronically! It should be repaired so it doesn't cut out like that but I'm sure the owner probably won't because it does exactly what it did for Jimi!

[Xplorer]

very "bad" electronically means perfect in this case ; )
someone went wrong on wiring the power transformer, to the 560v tap. and it went gooooood.
with pre rola g12h30 75hz and NOS components, NOS KT66 tubes.