Which WCR

Post by **Scumback Speakers** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:39 am

Billy Batz wrote:Man the DBs got some bit to em! I little on the hot side for my tastes but I have to say they have the clarity so its not a bad thing. I may back em down a bit tho. Ill go on a limb and say to date the best PAF pickup Ive played so far, juiced up or not.

Just slightly less hot than the DarkBursts are the BetSet. My entry level playing skills of it on Hideaway are here: http://southbayampworks.com/scumbackcli ... wayH75.mp3

5150loveeddie · Post by **5150loveeddie** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:05 am

rockstah wrote:i have tried a5 ( comes stock ) and a2. i did try the a3 but have forgotten why i don't like it. ...anyway comparing a5 to a2 the 5 is somewhat brighter where the a2 is some what smoother( not as bright ). the a2 seems a little fatter/rounder but the a5 seems a little more articulate and aggressive. they both have things i like and as of recently i went back to the stock a5... ya never know what it will be next week though.
as well i suppose it all depends on the guitar the pickup is in as far which you'll prefer.

I'm not really into ceramic magnets. they seem a little to harsh and brittle. great for metal i would say.

p.s. the Darkburst is 8.6k and it may take some getting used to as far as how you run your setup but its a wide open sound pickup. nothing surrounding the notes if u know what i mean.

So the higher you go the more highend/aggresive is going on basicly?

novosibir · Post by **novosibir** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:03 am

I've tried A2 and A5 in Darkburst Bridges & Crossroads Neck PU's (what IMO is the best combination) back and forth several times.

I can't say, that the A2 is less bright compared to the A5, concerning the upper (shimmering) highs, but the A2 takes out these (IMO a bit annoying) 'into your face' high mids and lets the PU's appear warmer with an extended frequency range and more balanced in its overall sound. No longer too much concentrated to these 'cut through' high mids.

But great PU's - no matter which magnet applied!

Larry

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:52 am

I do have the AII! Dont get me wrong. Its hot but Im not disliking it. Its just a bit more then Im used to but Im really diggin this p/up

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:13 pm

Billy Batz wrote:I do have the AII! Dont get me wrong. Its hot but Im not disliking it. Its just a bit more then Im used to but Im really diggin this p/up

u ordered the DB with a2 to begin with?

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:13 pm

5150loveeddie wrote:
rockstah wrote:i have tried a5 ( comes stock ) and a2. i did try the a3 but have forgotten why i don't like it. ...anyway comparing a5 to a2 the 5 is somewhat brighter where the a2 is some what smoother( not as bright ). the a2 seems a little fatter/rounder but the a5 seems a little more articulate and aggressive. they both have things i like and as of recently i went back to the stock a5... ya never know what it will be next week though.
as well i suppose it all depends on the guitar the pickup is in as far which you'll prefer.

I'm not really into ceramic magnets. they seem a little to harsh and brittle. great for metal i would say.

p.s. the Darkburst is 8.6k and it may take some getting used to as far as how you run your setup but its a wide open sound pickup. nothing surrounding the notes if u know what i mean.
So the higher you go the more highend/aggresive is going on basicly?

i dont know about that.

toner · Post by **toner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:45 pm

Does anyone know the DC resistance or relative output levels of these models?
BetSet, Crossroads, Godwood, Darkburst

I want accurate "vintage" PAF tone and output strength. I usually don't like pickups higher than about 8.5k DC.

I wish their web site had useful info and less hype and imagery.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:48 pm

toner wrote:Does anyone know the DC resistance or relative output levels of these models?
BetSet, Crossroads, Godwood, Darkburst

I want accurate "vintage" PAF tone and output strength. I usually don't like pickups higher than about 8.5k DC.

I wish their web site had useful info and less hype and imagery.

u should ask Jim himself. he will tell u dc residence means nothing. he would be able to answer your questions and recommend one of his pickups for your needs.

toner · Post by **toner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:59 pm

rockstah wrote:u should ask Jim himself. he will tell u dc residence means nothing. he would be able to answer your questions and recommend one of his pickups for your needs.

Thanks. I emailed him.

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:24 pm

I got the A2 with it yes so I have both magnets but didnt try the A5. I could but I was always partial to A2 anyways.

Jim said he may be signing up BTW. Not to speak for him but that would be great as he could answer these Qs here for everyone who wants to know and another knowledgeable person to have around.

novosibir · Post by **novosibir** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:07 pm

toner wrote:Does anyone know the DC resistance or relative output levels of these models?
BetSet, Crossroads, Godwood, Darkburst

See below the specs of the buckers, which went through my hands in the last 18 months:

toner · Post by **toner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:34 pm

novosibir wrote:
toner wrote:Does anyone know the DC resistance or relative output levels of these models?
BetSet, Crossroads, Godwood, Darkburst
See below the specs of the buckers, which went through my hands in the last 18 months:

Awesome. Thanks Larry!

I already got a reply from WCR and your DC resistance readings are very close to what Jim told me.

Jim ranked them as follows from lowest to highest output:
BetSet
Crossroads
Darkburst
Godwood

fillmore nyc · Post by **fillmore nyc** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:25 pm

rockstah wrote:u should ask Jim himself. he will tell u dc residence means nothing. he would be able to answer your questions and recommend one of his pickups for your needs.

To tell you how much the DC resistance is unimportant, the WCR Fillmore set reads 10.5k for the neck, and 13.5k for the bridge, and they're not any hotter than a strong PAF. They SOUND different, but that DC has everything to do with wire gauge and the amount of turns on the coils. An even more extreme example is the pickups on current issue USA, or Custom Shop Gibson Firebirds. The neck pickups read around 14.5k , and the bridge reads approx 23k, but they are NOT wicked distortion pickups as the DC would lead you to believe. They are pretty hot pickups, but no hotter than a full size PAF.

toner · Post by **toner** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:38 pm

fillmore nyc wrote:To tell you how much the DC resistance is unimportant, the WCR Fillmore set reads 10.5k for the neck, and 13.5k for the bridge, and they're not any hotter than a strong PAF. They SOUND different, but that DC has everything to do with wire gauge and the amount of turns on the coils...

How do the Fillmore's sound different, fillmore nyc?

I would guess they are a little darker with a tighter bass response than the others. True?

mwm523 · Post by **mwm523** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:11 pm

Billy Batz wrote:...Jim said he may be signing up BTW. Not to speak for him but that would be great as he could answer these Qs here for everyone who wants to know and another knowledgeable person to have around.

He signed up already. At some point last night I noticed on the main page, "The newest registered user is WCR"

http://forum.metroamp.com/profile.php?m ... le&u=10295