Albert King / Born Under A Bad Sign

wide slide · Post by **wide slide** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:27 pm

I saw albert in the Village NYC in the early 70's about 1/2 dozen times
All I can say ... ONE... NOTE!!!

anyway... EVERYBODY heard what he was saying!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKJ-lBOFYrQ

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:09 am

Gary Moore figured out his tuning in the studio, but promised Albert, that he would never reveal it..a real character and a funky King, his stuff with Stax was way cool.....

yngwie308

sadwings75 · Post by **sadwings75** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:19 am

Not trying to hijack the thread but anyone heard the Pat Travers of this song from the album Crash and Burn from the same year (1980)?

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:40 am

You mean like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br15dEgaPtg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJ0tKh0Pqs
Snortin' Whisky, Drinkin' Cocaine....

Rock On Pat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gstmUkpo ... re=related

yngwie308

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:50 am

yngwie308 wrote:Snortin' Whisky, Drinkin' Cocaine....
Rock On Pat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gstmUkpo ... re=related

yngwie308

I always thought that was stupid name for a song, but boy I sure loved playing the shit out of it! We ended the set with it and I just hit every stomp box I had. Over the top Travers TONE! A real fun rocker.

fillmore nyc · Post by **fillmore nyc** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:35 am

Chief, ya know I never noticed how much Albert King and Waylon Jennings kinda look alike... you could ALMOST mistake one for the other!!

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sadwings75 · Post by **sadwings75** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:54 pm

yngwie308 wrote:You mean like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br15dEgaPtg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJ0tKh0Pqs
Snortin' Whisky, Drinkin' Cocaine....
Rock On Pat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gstmUkpo ... re=related

yngwie308

Pat Travers had that volume swelling technique down before Ed put out Cathedral, though I've heard boots from '81 where Ed was starting to work it into his solo a little bit. Eddie did take it a bit further though. Though there were hints of that in previous recordings of Jeff Beck and Queen, and probably others that I'm not thinking of right now.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:35 pm

Yngwie too (obvious Yngwie plug alert

), he uses this technique on Echo Etude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvxPui7s4so

How about this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp8YlIZWsFE

yngwie308

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:45 pm

Lettuce also not forget the Cream version of this song lads..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECUlpVPzN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1S7YniPt10

yngwie308

wide slide · Post by **wide slide** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:14 am

Yes! very good point.

EC, The Stone's, and so many, brought exposeure to many blues Boy's.

fillmore nyc · Post by **fillmore nyc** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:11 pm

yngwie308 wrote:Lettuce also not forget the Cream version of this song lads..
yngwie308

Orange you forgetting another killa version of that song?? This one will Romaine as one of my all time favorites. (

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=iUYmimVvk6c

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:35 pm

fillmore nyc wrote:Chief, ya know I never noticed how much Albert King and Waylon Jennings kinda look alike... you could ALMOST mistake one for the other!! / /

OK you fucker!!! Let's go! Me and you!!! You're going make come all the way back there just to go!!!

Too funny, fill. You make miss being home! That was a good laugh after watching the Jest have a shot at beating the f'n undefeated Pats and blowing it.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:39 pm

[quote="sadwings75]Though there were hints of that in previous recordings of Jeff Beck and Queen, and probably others that I'm not thinking of right now.[/quote]

HINTS!?!?!?!??!?! Listen to "Cause We've Ended as Lovers" (JB) for volume swells. It's dedicated to Roy Buchannan who made a LIVING out of Tele volume swells. Another thing EVH did NOT invent. And when you see Jimi do all the behind the back, through the legs, behind the head and teeth stuff he openly said he stole it form the old blues masters.

wide slide · Post by **wide slide** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:53 pm

Hey Fill,

THAT is a %$#^in Killer take...WOW!!! Yeah I've heard it before but WOW! What F%$@in tone. Thats BAD!!!

I remember seeing Albert's paws, not only where they huge but he wore these rings I don't know how'd be able to play at the time.

sadwings75 · Post by **sadwings75** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:32 pm

NY Chief wrote:HINTS!?!?!?!??!?! Listen to "Cause We've Ended as Lovers" (JB) for volume swells. It's dedicated to Roy Buchannan who made a LIVING out of Tele volume swells. Another thing EVH did NOT invent. And when you see Jimi do all the behind the back, through the legs, behind the head and teeth stuff he openly said he stole it form the old blues masters.

I'm fully aware of Jeff Beck and Roy Buchanan's use of volume swells; my word choice was correct in the context that I was using it. I was referring to using swells with a delay to create the effect show in that first Pat Travers' video.
Though Eddie is one of my favorite guitar players, it does not make me naive to the fact that he didn't invent many of the techniques that people associate with him. Though I do greatly enjoy the ways that he used them, and feel that in some cases he did take them further, I also enjoy the more subtle, textural ways that they are/were used by the likes of Beck, Buchanan, Morse, Moore, etc.