Les Paul Wiring

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Post by fillmore nyc » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:35 am

Southbay Ampworks wrote:In any case, compared to new PIO caps, ceramic disc caps and others on the market, I can definitely hear the difference in my guitars.
I can understand how a NOS cap makes a difference when its applied to an amp, but in a regular ol' grounded tone circuit in a guitar??

I've been working on, in and around guitars for 37 years at this point... Modded 'em, built 'em, broke 'em, fixed 'em... pumped 'em up and calmed 'em down. Been there and done that... twice Im pretty sure. :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Post by OnTheFritz » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:09 am

fillmore nyc wrote:
Southbay Ampworks wrote:In any case, compared to new PIO caps, ceramic disc caps and others on the market, I can definitely hear the difference in my guitars.
I can understand how a NOS cap makes a difference when its applied to an amp, but in a regular ol' grounded tone circuit in a guitar??

I've been working on, in and around guitars for 37 years at this point... Modded 'em, built 'em, broke 'em, fixed 'em... pumped 'em up and calmed 'em down. Been there and done that... twice Im pretty sure. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Maybe my ears need some reading glasses... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Fill, I see what you're saying, and I've not A-B'd caps in a guitar.
But if caps like Mallories shunt to ground frequencies in a slightly different manner than Bumble Bee's or caps of any different construction, that means what's *not* being shunted is different accordingly.
It has to make a difference.
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Post by fillmore nyc » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:35 am

OnTheFritz wrote: It has to make a difference.
Well, thats why all these different kind of caps are for sale, OTF!! Like Tuco said, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion!!
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Post by Fever Dog » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:22 pm

im looking for a bit more high end to come through on my les paul with the volume full up. can i do this with a new cap value?
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Post by fillmore nyc » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:48 am

Fever Dog wrote:im looking for a bit more high end to come through on my les paul with the volume full up. can i do this with a new cap value?
Well, you've gotta be a little more specific, FD. Are you talking about volume full up, tone full up, or tone rolled off? If its tone full up as well, then using different caps will make very little difference, cause the treble bleed off thru the cap is being restricted by the resistance of the tone pot. You can get more brightness with volume full up by using a larger resistance volume and/or tone pot. A 1meg tone and volume pot will result in an overall brighter guitar cause there is twice the resistance for ANY signal to bleed off to ground when the pot is wide open.
Conversely, using 250k, or even 100k pots will result in a guitar that you'll perceive as warmer, cause some high end is being shunted to ground thru the pot, cause the resistance of the pot is not enough to stop the signal from doing that.
Some guys try using a 500k volume, and a 1 meg tone pot, which will increase brightness to a somewhat noticable degree. I say "somewhat", cause the diff is not dramatic, but any decent set of ears can hear it.
In the extreme, going from 100k, or 250k volume and tone pots, to 1 meg volume and tone pots would be audible by my mother in law... who's deaf!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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