which paf in a Gibson SG?

[gutpile]

My '68 T tops do a great Angus, no doubt. Hopefully Gutpile will chime in about his new Throbaks in his SG. Don Butler had a set of these in his LP at the amp show. Unreal. Gut and I both came home and ordered a set.

VG

had to get mine potted as they had some squeal at first... the tone, un-f'ing-believable... awesome tone... great sparkly cleans with the volume rolled back on the guitar and rich thick breakup when pushed... I'll get some clips up soon... I recorded a couple over the weekend... I am going to do a blind taste test between 1.) 78 Custom LP w/t-tops, 2.) LP Std w/Fralin Humbuckers and 3.) '61 SG Reissue w/Throbak SLE101 Ltd's... All played through my 45/100 at the same settings... I was pretty blown away at how different they sounded! I'll get 'em up in the next few days and see who can match up the three clips to the right guitars... George, when do yours come in?

Mike

[56goldtop]

Aren't the standard High Orders pretty much T-top speced? If they aren't I'm sure he'll make them that way for you. Although I got PAF styled pickups from him, I can tell you he winds great pickups.

[Roe]

no the standard highorders has mush stronger magnet and typically more windings

[Scumback Speakers]

Not to burst anyone's bubble on pickups, but I was watching AC/DV Live at Donington the other night, and Angus played an early 60's SG/LP all night. I'm figuring it was an original since they hadn't brought out the SG Reissues with the "Les Paul" inscription on the truss rod cover at that time (1992), IIRC.

And if that's correct, then maybe he was using PAF's...

[Roe]

angus was one of the first users of the SG RI - he used it in the early 90s. in a interview from the period he explicit stated that he prefered the old pups to the new ones. Very few SGs had pafs. One of Ang's favorites is a stock 64 (used on the ballbreaker album). in my experience, patent number (pat #) and t-top pups are typically better suited for ac/dc than PAFs. the 57 classics are mediocree IMHO

[Scumback Speakers]

roe, I don't doubt Angus would have used the SG Reissues, but they hadn't brought out the "SG/Les Paul" reissue in 92 had they? I'm talking the one that came with "Les Paul" in script on the truss rod cover. Didn't those come out much later?

[Roe]

the historic RIs came later - but angus was one of the first to use the ordinary SG RIs. gibson even made posters with angus and a SG RI in the early 1990s. also, angus seems to have used a RI for the thunderstruch video in late 1990.

I think angus got his first original SG/LP in the very early 80s - you can certainly see it on the for those about to rock tour (1981-82)

[Scumback Speakers]

Ok, the SG used in the Donington video is definitely one that has the "Les Paul" in script on the truss rod cover, which came with the early 60's SG/LP's (up till 63) and the later "Historic" models. So that's either an original he's playing at Donington or Angus is into swapping truss rod covers.

Here's the truss rod cover I'm referring to (on my 61 SG/LP Std), in case some are wondering.
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[jcs]

if you search around you will find angus fav sg is actually a later 60s model, he likes really thin necks.

i havent seen ac/dc since 1978 on the powerage tour,but the tone that night was tremendous to say the least (from the whole band),never seen a player copy paul kossoff as much as angus.

[Roe]

angus likes narrow necks rather than thin necks.
I'd guess donington was an original SG/LP

[jcs]

my friends real 61 sg/les paul falls into the kind of wide but thin neck,i havent seen it in so long i cant even remember which bridge it has but i distinctly remember the wider neck that is thinner.

angus would like my 65 special which has the narrow nut but quickly gets bigger past the 1st few frets..matter of fact its perfect past say the 4th fret for me.

i'm thinking t tops are good for angus tone but keep in mind those fellers never used anything but the best marshalls..

i think their older brother that produced early ac/dc knew great tone back in the 60s as well.

[marci84]

I ordered a handwound pickup from a guy here in italy, a replica of a t-top. tomorrow i think i will receive it. After that i will see if i want to keep the SG as a low output guitar or as a high output guitar.

Infact i was thinking about the Gibson Tony Iommi to put in the bridge

[fkh]

I'm pretty sure that Angus' main guitar in the early years ( The Bon Scot era ) was a
stock 71 !!!

There several pics showing "the volute" , witch came in 70-71.




You can see this many times in the "Jewels" dvd.

I have one just like his :


More detailed pics here :http://fkh.dk/sg71/

[Roe]

I'm pretty sure that Angus' main guitar in the early years ( The Bon Scot era ) was a
stock 71 !!!

There several pics showing "the volute" , witch came in 70-71.




You can see this many times in the "Jewels" dvd.

I have one just like his :


More detailed pics here :http://fkh.dk/sg71/

this has been debated at lenght before. even gibson has trouble dating ang's old SG. usually it is dated to the 67-71 period. ang's SG does NOT have the regular neck - it has a much narrower nut, making it a very rare guitar

[electricskychurch]

the volute Angus has on the guitar he's seen with most of the time in the early years shows it's a 70-71 SG , there was no volute before that time !

it's difficult to compare different pu's in different guitars (sg vs les paul) but i have the feeling i really prefer the WCR crossroads set (with A2 mags) i have in my 97' les paul 59' ri ,over the BetSet in my 2000 SG61' ri , whereas i'm a big AC/DC (until back in black/ for those).
i will try some CR in that SG to see if i really prefer them over the betset.