floyd Rose

[pfrischmann]

Here is a prime example of tone sucking Original Floyd Rose tone sucking guitar, with active EMG pickup, no less:
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These examples all show the incredibly dead end sound from a plank with a FR, , yes no sustain compared to a vintage trem, blah, blah.
Guess what if a Floyd is not for you, don't play em, granted they take a lot of technique and right hand control , balance and muting to play correctly, but I feel Gary Moore in these clips is able to use the bar to incredible musical triumphs!
imho of course, a vintage Strat trem cannot soar like this dynamite Charvel of old

yngwie308

Yet,
Gary sounds better on guitars without a floyd. Even he has said that.
Floyds (especially floating) Add a lot of top end. I'm sure there are lot's of people like me who added one to an existing guitar in the 80's and heard the change. It's significant.

[yngwie308]

Gary has never used floating Floyd Roses though.. he prefers as do I, the top mount style, with only down movement primarily. So does Steve Stevens, EVH.
I think at the time he used them, the Floyd Roses suited Gary's music perfectly!
yngwie308

[Tone Deaf Guitars]

Has anybody tried the new brass blocks that are so fat that you have to set your floyd up to float, yet the black is so fat it still contacts the front part of the cut out? You can't pull sharp but unless your Vai in "Crossroads" it's been done. And has any body mentioed Kahler's? Slayer has one of the fattest tones and both use them. I think they're the heaviest sounding bridge this side of a tune o matic.

[planetjimi]

I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I have a guitar with a genuine Floyd, and a guitar with a Floyd Licensed copy, and the copy sounds BETTER than the original. I firmly believe that even though the genuine Floyd operates more smoothly and lasts longer, the copy produces a better tone. The genuine Floyd sounds so thin. It really seems to lack low-end.

The only difference between these two guitars is that the Original Floyd is on a guitar with an Alder body, while the copy is on a basswood body. Both guitars have the same model bridge pickup...

I have found the same thing. I have two old kramers with original floyds and then a bunch of guitar with Floyd copies. The originals have harder steel while the copys have a softer steel (thats why the knife edge wears out faster). The softer steel does not have as much of a "tink" to it.

[yngwie308]

The brass big blocks are a cool concept and they even have a titanium one as well, but the test I read in Premier Guitar on line, said the extra weight somewhat upset the balance of the guitar. They definitely make a difference to the tone.
I find nothing wrong with the Original Floyds. The Schaller copy that came on my artists model SS80 Washburn had issues with the metal being too soft, so leave 'em hard I say!
Nothing worse than a Floyd that dosen't stay in tune, I know...
yngwie308

[planetjimi]

I find nothing wrong with the Original Floyds. The Schaller copy that came on my artists model SS80 Washburn had issues with the metal being too soft, so leave 'em hard I say!
Nothing worse than a Floyd that dosen't stay in tune, I know...
yngwie308

Oh yeah alot of the copies are junk, but some of them are better sounding than the original. The only problem is you have to replace the locking nut and the locking saddles because a groove gets worn into them and then they don't lock anymore.

[TONGA]

Tone Deaf Guitars wrote

And has any body mentioed Kahler's?

I have 2 guitars with kahler trems on them one is an old Washburn I picked up brand new in the very early eighties, it is a very dark sounding.
The other is a Gould S-copy I picked up last year that must have had a gibson style hard tail and it looks like it now has that kahler that hangs on the posts for the old tail. This is one ugly guitar but everyone has a hard time putting it down because it sounds good!

[Rickey_Dee]

Oh yeah alot of the copies are junk, but some of them are better sounding than the original.

well i have tried or have nearly every major licensed floyd (jackson, charvel, gotoh, schaller, ibanez, original floyd) installed on a guitar, and i have to say that IF they are setup perfect, they all work perfect, except for the gotoh, i just hate it... but if you go into detail, there are only 2 options left... and these are the original floyd and - i haven't thought that i'd say that sometime - the ibanez lo pro edge trem. this is a FUCKIN AWESOME TREM!! ... i'm sure they aren't interchangeable, i bought a rg565 some months ago that had a new lo pro edge trem installed, and that's the only trem that i would prefer over the original floyd rose, even though i'm still happy with my guitars that have the original floyd installed and i wouldn't replace them anytime. but honestly i HAVE to say, the ibanez floyd is just killer... the perfect floyd copy, even though it's completely different.

[Tone Deaf Guitars]

Has anybody installed a "Ping" Floyd yet? They claim they are so much better than an OFR.









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[laneychris]

So the consensus is a floyd flat mounted to the body would give the most resonance? I'd like to hear from a few people who have experimented with flat mount opposed to blocking the floyd underneath with wood or the trem-no or something of that nature...you forfeit being able to pull up.

[IloveMyMarshall]

Scored me a decent axe today, I know some of you are probably like awww junk, however this is my new Jem, got for 300 with case shipped! All duncans rails and Jb in the bridge with FRose, D tuna, and professional scalloped job on the neck, man she was wound with 10s! Anyways I plugged in me trusty 2204 WOW I actually love this guitar and the 10s Im diggin too, i would never thought i would like that heavy guage however loaded with tone, thought i would share this I know Im happy!!

Have a good friday ya all I know I am!!!
Ok check her out









Oh had to update this was the post I was bitchin about duncans thin soudning pups, well I put a Duncan 59 250k pot in my hard ash strat with maple neck, and she is anything but thin, love the setup however, stock trem.

[yngwie308]

Congratulations ILMM, enjoy, that guitar has some unique features and I like the scallops..
yngwie308

[yngwie308]

Contiuing this topic of Floyds, there has been a similar thread on the Hamer Fan Club forum, though there it is Kahlers vrs. Floyds, which do you prefer??
That's easy for me as I have never even played a guitar with a Kahler until recently when I played a 1982 Pre-Pro Charvel Blk/Yl stripe, but it wasn't a proper play through an amp or anything.
That the following Floyds, the Pro, ect never were as popular, reflects the integrity of the original design.
Also much was made of Floyd blocking other designs of locking tremelos with copyright and using original patent, ect.
This may be true, but Floyd Rose was/is a pioneer who solved a particulary difficult issue and let people whammy away with abandon, imagine Jimi with a Floyd.lol
yngwie308