Gibson Custom Jeff Beck Les Paul VOS

[yngwie308]

Actually I read that Jeff's real guitar has the pickup mounting ring on the bridge pickup notched to allow for the bridge..
I don't see this anywhere...
yngwie308

[NY Chief]

Maybe notched to allow clearance for the hi "e". You can't change it without moving the bridge.

[yngwie308]

My wife looked at the 'aging' on these and thought they were crap!! I read on the LPF that Gibson paid Jeff Beck $10K per guitar to sign them and play them, ect....
That's only $50K, they are charging $25K each for this run of 50, so do the math .
What is the winding difference on the BB 2 and 3's that Jeff specified to match his Oxblood and where the hell is Jeff's original guitar, why wasn't it ever displayed by him and did Gibson have access to it in person to replicate or only by pictures??
Inquiring minds want to know??
So the run of 100 VOS models are going for, cheapest, $7600 on the Bay....
Interesting, the run of 100 have BECK printed in large Gold letters on the back of the headstock..
I have a pic of that and will post it
yngwie308

[NY Chief]

JB only needed $50k to build a new motor.

I hear Jeff and his tech went through 70 different pickups to get the "right one"
Guess you won't be seeing all the greed and hoopla over the release of the Oxblood pickups signed on the backplate by JB, or strings, straps, cables, picks or SHOES with the JB trademark on it either. What a difference in class vs none...

[yngwie308]

I think I need to do the math...$10K x 50 = 500K, not 50K..
yngwie308

[NY Chief]

So he need a KILLER motor and maybe the rest of the Hot Rod, too!

[electricskychurch]

20 000 $ for this guitar !!!

do they provide the vaseline ! LOL

why should they stop ?
they always find some people to buy them !

sincerly, i think it's a rob !

as we all know, a guitar may look exactly like another one but might sound really different .
knowing they are unable to reproduce some decent pu's (although i didn't try teh BB1 & 2 but heard some clips to compare and had several guitars with classic 57 ) , i really wonder why it should cost 5 times or more , the price of a regular one ?

what do i care about a factory made signature of a rock star on a guitar even if i like him (unless maybe if he signs it in front of me on my own guitar if i was to met him) , will it make me play like him (nor will it make me sound exactly like him , better than with a regular prod guitar built the same way ) ?
no

the only signature guitars i bough were because of the particular spec i couldn't find on a guitar and i hated to have the signature or logo ( i had the angus young i had bought for the very thin neck and finaly sold it and had a mark knopfler as i could buy it new for half the price but i could have bought an american vintage if i had found one new as cheap ! anyway i sold it as well ! )

i think these repro guitars are just marketing and their prices are way too high for the tone they provide and teh fact they are just new guitars with a signature on !
would you pay 15000 $ to have Jeff sign your les paul 59 ri or any les paul (or any guitar ) ?

i wouldn't even pay that to get hendrix sign mine if it was possible whereas i love and respect him so much cause that's not something you have to pay !

have you already seen an artist asking you to pay him for he signs teh back of a record or a book , T-shirt ... ?

anyway, i don't think i would buy a guitar with wrap around bridge (especialy the new ones that can be bought with stop bar / abr-1) as i hate to play with a guitar that plays out of tune (that's why i can't listen or watch hendrix at woodstock or isle of wight anymore ! and you can see he's pissed off with that ! ) and most gibson i have tried are quiet sensible to that problem compared to strats or tele's , especialy the G string when you play a D near teh headstock , fretting the G string at the second fret , if teh intonation / saddles are not setup precisely , you can't be on tune mostly due to the height of the frets and the way you setup the strings height (unless you fret very softly), and it's quiet hard to be on tune on this string on the whole lenght of the neck (up and down ) at the same time (it needs a quiet precise setup for this one that you already have hard time , finding the right spot with an abr-1...) .
so i won't pay 20 000 $ to be out of tune ! LOL

that said that might be a nice guitar with teh right pu's for those who like wrap around bridges and can spend 20 000 not thinking it's a waste to put that much in that type of guitar !

by the way,; i have a 2002 wine red les paul standard , if someone is interested, i can sell him for 15000 $ and have a wrap aroound bridge mounted and BB's ! LOL

4000 $ or 5000$ is already a big amount of money but for a nice les paul 59' ri with nice top i don't think it's a rob but 20 000 $ for a les paul that is not even a flame top...
knowing the custom 57 price , i think this should sell for 2500 $ or 3000$ but not much more.

that's like buying a hendrix strat, even if some are nice, i find it a bit cheezy (and teh upside down body is uncomfortable ).
i think he would have played with left handed ones (and would have had nearly if not exactly the same tone ) if he could have find as much choice through the left handed ones but i suppose there was very few at that time.
the only real advantage might have been the way the trem arm was mounted (SRV must have thought that as well ! LOL) .

[yngwie308]

The buzz I'm getting on the Internet with these VOS guitars, is everyone is complaining about the price, but say they want one.
I look to see these trading for increased money soon, unlike some other Gibsons..
yngwie308

[NY Chief]

What a load of crap this is. This guy is trying to say that he's a selling one of the new run of 150 pcs that list for $8+ for $3K? He says it belonged to a guitar player who loved it. Not for long 'cuz they just came out!

This is one of the older versions (which aren't bad).
This smells. The guy doesn't seem to know too much about the details either. No serial number....he can't even spell "great" correctly.

It's in Philly, we should send Billy Batz over there and get the real scoop. (Drug deal,?? "fell off the truck"???) My spidey sense is tingling!

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[yngwie308]

electricskychurch with respect, I feel you are missing the point about the qualities of the wraptail humbucker equipped Les Paul.
What has transformed an original 1954 spec Goldtop into a humbucker monster. It is sort of like taking a Les Paul Junior and steroiding it up. The charm of a wraptail isn't perfect intonation. Nobody who plays an original configuration type Junior or early spec Goldtop, expects it to perfectly intonate up and down the neck.
In fact the character or 'charm' of these guitars is the slightly off harmonics, these add to the mojo of the instrument.
The only issue with the Oxblood is the physical location of the bridge pickup ring to the wrap tailpiece. Actually a body mounted pickup would solve this, eliminating the rings.
The exact construction of the Oxblood and its combination of specifications that never originally came together on a Gibson, is exactly what makes it unique.
That's it's character..something that is all too often lacking in guitars these days.
yngwie308

[TONGA]

I played #45 at huber&breez music. Looks like they got all the correct dings in it but no crazing in the nitro like Jeff’s. did not really care for the guitar.
I mean it played well enough but 25 grand?

[fillmore nyc]

What has transformed an original 1954 spec Goldtop into a humbucker monster. It is sort of like taking a Les Paul Junior and steroiding it up. The charm of a wraptail isn't perfect intonation. Nobody who plays an original configuration type Junior or early spec Goldtop, expects it to perfectly intonate up and down the neck.
In fact the character or 'charm' of these guitars is the slightly off harmonics, these add to the mojo of the instrument.
yngwie308

Agreed, Dave. And just in case the intonation thing REALLY gets under a players skin, there is always someone with a viable answer:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ABM-Featherweight-C ... dZViewItem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wilkinson-Lightweig ... dZViewItem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As soon as I get mine up from Florida (where it is vacationing in my own house... without me / ), ONE of these will probably go on it.

[NY Chief]

The true story of the Oxblood....scroll way down....


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