Ritchie Blackmore

[NY Chief]

and Lazy live!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIg3fsLA ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[yngwie308]

Yes, Ritchie rules that's for sure, great to see this fantastic band like this!
yngwie308

[laz7]

The biggest myth surrounding Ritchie Blackmore and Deep Ritchie in that early DP era had a very distinct tone, not too distorted and the overall feel of the Strat single coils was preserved by him.
The use of the tape machines pre-amp, was a cool touch as well..
yngwie308

His picking style had a lot to do with the tone.

I was tryring to do this as close to the original as possible . Guitar was removed from the original track.
INTO THE FIRE solo
Song page: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8233290" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1986 (57reissue) strat
METROAMP 50W plexi
Fulltone OCD

[NY Chief]

Good job, laz!

I love that old DP sound, why don't more keyboard players play like that?????

[laz7]

Good job, laz!

I love that old DP sound, why don't more keyboard players play like that?????

I agree. They don't make those kind of musicians anymore.

I also have a youtube clip of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP8mJEmYrxk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Song page: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8233290" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[yngwie308]

Lazy-1993
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZv1NgAcsmc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ritchie interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHLekh0OZQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ritchie's guitar collection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHa6LbE ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGNZ5NCK ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf7oYywdS8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Incredible Ritchie ES-335 solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmXutNKVbM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2IsVsG9Whs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO-cGmJIppc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not Ritchie, this Japanese player is great John (Outlier) knows of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AfRSfSn ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4Ge2yIL-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn2RcVCSoM&" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn2RcVC ... PL&index=2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYLQbErkaU0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Noe1lNfjE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQr4NgVu ... L&index=19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBG4I8c7opw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAiaOLVj ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lyMUYpC9h4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnts-7uNbC0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhymE3jZnsU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9_D3Ya_XcE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo882cDwLho" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vEIftdby4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_MSKrZwQ7E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhHNkQl ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C579p6GpmHo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mok-ATw_ ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkYHpk3TKCg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ke8a8jYD8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVc_g6fsqQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Chose these carefully to make a start of cool RB related videos!
Also regarding the tape decks as pre-amp echoes, check thisout:
A few things to note:

* the mic preamp expects a signal of much lower amplitude than a guitar pickup, and is easily overdriven
* the preamp output feeds the guitar amp with a much hotter signal than most pedals of that era would likely provide, overdriving the amp
* the mic preamp expects a mic impedance much lower than what a guitar presents, likely resulting in some (in this case) useful bandwidth limiting


It is possible that the tape deck in the picture IS a solid-state model. While any clipping characteristics in the preamp itself may be different from a tube-based unit, the fact still remains that it would be overdriven by a guitar, that the resulting output would overdrive the amp's input stage, and that the impedance differences between guitars and voice mics would have resulted in some bandwidth limiting. I know I enjoyed my old setup immensely, and I would be prejudiced in favour of tubes, but I suppose there is no reason why a solid-state tape deck, used in the same manner might not provide some sonic benefit too

yngwie308

[OnTheFritz]

Never been much of a Deep Purple fan, but I'm getting into them. Smoke on the Water kinda put them in a box for me growing up.
Heard "My Woman from Tokyo" today on the radio, and damn, that guitar tone and playing is absolutely killer!
The vocals are amazing, what a great rock and roll song.

[NY Chief]

It's a double edged sword that "Smoke on the Water" but listen to the rest of "Machine Head". And get "Burn" and "Who Do We Think We Are". Killer playing and songwriting by all the musicians.

[flieger67]

Don't forget to check out "In Rock", too, as well as some of the live discs. There's a collector's version of "Made in Japan" that features all of three of the shows that they recorded to produce "Made". The Coverdale era has produced several live recordings that are interesting to hear from not only a guitar perspective but to also hear how the band was being drawn into a more '70's blues/funk direction by Coverdale and Hughes which you can really hear on "Stormbringer" and "Live at the California Jam".

[yngwie308]

Also the "On The Wings of a Russian Foxbat" which has been officially released now with the MK IV lineup and Tommy Bolin fresh with the band just Kills!!
yngwie308

[outlier]

Pretty good huh? A few months ago, I bought a live Deep Purple Mk IV CD in a truck stop. Listening to it, I practically cringe. Sounds like a Podunkville bar band covering Deep Purple; Tommy sounds very amateurish.

I don't think that he necessarily should have aped Ritchie's solos note-for-note, but say on "Burn," there's of course that very emblematic classical arpeggio sequence which Tommy doesn't even attempt. Rather he just fumbles through some Saturday afternoon music store pentatonic licks... Really sad. Must've been very high at that show or something...

[yngwie308]

Actually John probably what you bought is the live Last Concert In Japan, which is the worst record I have ever heard, all you hear are Jon Lord's keyboards carrying the whole show, this was the show where Tommy's arm was numb after shooting up and falling asleep on that arm, hardly the best representation of his work.'The record I am referring to is from the rehearsals or first few shows, before Tommy was too out of it.
He deliberately didn't play Burn's solo like Ritchie or Highway Star, ect.
The band was almost right away a shambles I will admit..but have to go off to work, there are better examples of Tommy's playing then what you bought at a truckstop though..
More latter..........
Dave

[yngwie308]

I am currently working on a major piece concerning Tommy's playing and tones, as I told you privately. There is still quite a bit of mystery to Tommy's signal chain, though for the most part I have assembled 95% of the data.
Overall of course Tommy's brief contribution to DP, is limited to the "Come Taste The Band" LP and that was that. In no way John am I comparing Tommy to Ritchie's contribution in DP.
Tommy was sick of being the fill in player for first Joe Walsh in the James Gang (though handpicked by Joe), who also went to his funeral, class act is Joe.
Then he was the fill in player for Ritchie in DP. The direction "Burn" went into, was carried on somewhat, but RB's and TB's styles couldn't be more diametrically opposed, Tommy really didn't even know who DP was when he took the gig. He was not well recieved by the British crowd to start with and it got worse.
Tommy's drug use escalated and his soloing style is completely different than RB's, so he doesen't even attempt RB's approach to the songs.
As I mentioned, I bought two Japanese import copies of the abysmal Last Concert In Japan LP's while living in London.
All I hear is some noise from Tommy's echoplex and Jon Lord carrying even the leads some of the time.
The CD I am referring to was I think the rehearsals sessions or one of the first few US gigs when they were kicking ass.
Drugs+music= zero as we all know, I didn't mean to sully the RB thread with the MK IV lineup, but it was such a great album and many of Tommy's songs are sadly prophetic, even in the James Gang era and especially in the Tommy Bolin Band, post DP.
Tommy was falling down the elevator shaft known as heroin addiction, which is hard to jump off from and we all know the outcome.
Glenn Hughes said as he looked at Tommy in his casket, he was even more into his full blown cocaine addiction.
Not to get off topic, but in TB's case the waste of talent is incredible..God Bless you Tommy, hope you have found the peace you were always searching for at last....

yngwie308

[outlier]

I have Teaser on vinyl, which I used to listen to all the time many years ago. Didn't like Private Eyes as much...

The DP live CD may very well be a repackaging of Last Concert in Japan. I'd read about that situation from reviews on amazon.com and elsewhere. Honestly, DP sound like a shambles on this CD, really bad, singing is not so great either, sounds like a bar band for real, no kidding. Actually, to say that does a disservice to a lot of bar bands... Hey, we all have off nights...

[yngwie308]

I don't want to hijack the RB thread here, so may start a DP MK IV thread seperately, I have heard boots of most of the MK IV live gigs, I haven't heard the rehearsal sessions, which were apparently the best, with Tommy at his most inspirational.
Tommy had a two-fold approach to the DP gig, he wanted to record his first solo record Teaser and promo that, but he took the DP gig for the money mostly, as though he often received critical acclaim post Spectrum with Billy Cobham and Alphonse Mouzon's solo records, ect.
He would literally be starving between gigs. That he was admired by way more technically proficient (in some respects) players like McLaughlin, Beck, Santana, Barre, ect., was an indicator of how pure a musician Tommy was and he had this wild sense of abandon and excitement to his playing that was frankly not suited to the DP lineup.
Also he had been playing loaded since the Zephyr days, through Energy and the James Gang.
When heroin reared it's ugly head, it changed Tommy's approach to playing, as it would anybody's.
It is painful for me, loving his playing and musicianship as much I do, to hear this cacophony of noise that for the most part post the Australian first leg of the "Come Taste The Band" tour, once they hit Japan, the next leg, it was beyond belief..Coverdale was threatened by Hughes coke fueled wailing's and he and Tommy were drug buddies, although Hughes has said a nameless member of DP was the first one he did cocaine with...
For those used to the Blackmore DP, which I loved as much as anyone, this was not going to work. The "CTTB" album was a funky cool change for DP and offered bright hopes for a new direction, even Ritchie admiring Tommy's playing..but that's not what happened.
Joe Walsh has always said and still does that Tommy played rings around him and he would never attempt to jam with Tommy. That Bolin was world class, there is no doubt. His own personal manager, a Jabba the Hut type of leech, didn't help with Tommy's career and business decisions.
His name was Barry Fey and in Colorado, where Tommy really started out creatively, he latched on to him right away.
I am not disputing your comments John about Tommy's playing with DP MK IV, you are absolutely right. For me the opportunity he took only advanced the prelude to his demise.
Though to be completely fair, Blackmore himself did everything but sh*t on the fans onstage a lot of the times with Deep Purple, not coming on stage when they were playing, turning his back to the audience, ect.
All I am saying here is there is a lot more to this whole Bolin/DP dynamic than obviously meets the eyes.
After my work on Tommy is written, I have lots to say, which I will say in the appropriate place.
What may seem like a good choice can go bad for both parties..
Dave