alessandro pots in a les paul

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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by paulster » Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:13 am

jerryjg wrote:Waste of money iMO. CTS have perfect feel and even cheaper Alphas are very good.
Two things that define the premium pots - value and taper.

Measure a stack of off-the-shelf CTS and Alpha 500K pots and I predict that none of them will actually be 500K or higher. That causes the pickups to load down a bit more and makes them darker. The RS pots (made by CTS as it happens), Dr Vintage pots (also made by CTS) and Allessandro will all have been specified with a far tighter tolerance on their value, so you should genuinely get a 500K pot. That will be an improvement in clarity for certain.

Secondly, the taper on CTS pots means you've got very little control in the low range of the pot. Not an issue if you play on 10 all the time but if you're using an amp like a Trainwreck you actually need to be able to get down to 1 or 2 to get different clean sounds, and most stock pots don't have any granularity down at this point so it becomes really hit-or-miss. The afore-mentioned pots all have their own custom tapers based off either old pots like Centralabs or their own specifications which give you more control at the extremities of the travel.

Now the taper may not make any difference whatsoever to you but the value will. You could always hand-pick the pots you want out of a big batch to get the right values, or you can pay a premium to have this done for you.

For me it's easier just to order the premium pots.

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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by BrianH » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:31 am

RS Superpots are a great pot for little $. Same with Dr. Vintage, and also keep an eye on http://retrospec-guitar.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :wink: :D Those guys are great to deal with and always make outstanding products.

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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by Structo » Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:33 pm

CTS pots can be all over the map as far as the feel of them goes.
They are one of the few companies that build the pots to individual retailers specs.
They can vary the clearance between the bushing and shaft as well as use different types of grease for the lube or no lube at all.
I was discussing this on another forum when a guy from a large online store chimed in with that info.

So depending where you buy them, they can feel totally different.

I have some that feel very tight and some that feel very loose.
I recently built a Telecaster and I think I bought my CTS pots from Stew Mac.
They have that nice broken in feel and are very easy to turn.

For consistency in amplifiers, I have had good luck with Alpha's.
Good price and good performance.
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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by yngwie308 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:29 am

Dr. Vintage is the best guy for pots and controls..he really knows what he is talking about..seriously.. :)
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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by Paul86 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:48 pm

the taper on CTS pots means you've got very little control in the low range of the pot. Not an issue if you play on 10 all the time but if you're using an amp like a Trainwreck you actually need to be able to get down to 1 or 2 to get different clean sounds,
My feelings exactly.

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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by Mars Hall » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:49 am

yngwie308 wrote:Dr. Vintage is the best guy for pots and controls..he really knows what he is talking about..seriously.. :)
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I'm holding out for the Dr Vintage kit for my R7. He describes his pots as having the feel of the old Centralab pots with a custom taper. Without being able to try all these different brands out, I just like the way he describes them. :D
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Re: alessandro pots in a les paul

Post by yngwie308 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:20 pm

Mars Hall wrote:
yngwie308 wrote:Dr. Vintage is the best guy for pots and controls..he really knows what he is talking about..seriously.. :)
yngwie308
I'm holding out for the Dr Vintage kit for my R7. He describes his pots as having the feel of the old Centralab pots with a custom taper. Without being able to try all these different brands out, I just like the way he describes them. :D
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