michael angelo batio?

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:20 pm

Flames1950 wrote:
I met a few young guitar players at a local festival I played who had that attitude and were impressed when warming up I whipped off some deceptivly complex sacth riff (I think that tapping Always With Me... part) but when I started doing some Cream stuff they totally thought I was an idiot saying much of that stuff is way harder for me to pull off. You can tell its the kind of thing theyll grow out of though when they branch out a bit.

Mmmm, so considering their attitude......how were they on TONE? Many younger players need a good lesson on this subject....I trust you taught them one.

I was playing my SLO. They were impressed with that. Im sure theyd be happier with it then I am. I call them young players but they were only about 6 years younger then me. I guess thats a lot.

Its not like they were 'that stuff sucks' but you can just tell. I volunteered the info that I had a harder time nailing the Cream stuff and you can see unflattering shock and that 'wahtever you say' kinda tude from them.

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:24 pm

Flames1950 wrote:If they do it well in a musical context I don't have a problem with it. Listen to many of the great classical pieces out there, some of those violin runs are jaw-dropping. But it's in a musical whole that is engaging and pleasing. I like to be surprised by a good display of virtuosity, but that can't be the entire purpose of the music. And if yer a jackass to boot, the mud is gonna fly.

Those classical guys are put through more of a ringer on technique then YM or Vai did to themselves and they got it just as much on the musicality aspect. Thats why those classical soloists are the best in the world. I know people who actually disprespect classical because theres no 'individuality or soul' only people who play written music. Its not like these guys are the ebst technical musicians out there. They are the best technical musicians AND they can play with real emotion. The best of the best. How can your jaw not drop.

Country Boy Shane · Post by **Country Boy Shane** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:21 pm

NY Chief wrote:Heard of this guy? He is all over the guitar rags ( I come to find out)

This guy did a closed clinic at local music store last night.

This guy has amazing chops - pure shreddaholic. The first ten minutes were blindly devastating. Then, well you know the rest...what else you got? He tried to play a blues. That lasted about 8 bars before he couldn't stand it and started the bee in heat shit. He was also very, er, "happy" with himself and didn't mind telling you (again and again and again...). But, then he pulled out the double neck. That was very impressive just for the chops and dexterity. He played some very cool harmony lines with each hand. It's a bit different double neck. Check out the link. He played righty, then he played lefty then played both necks simultaneously. Even played a few lines like a piano, left hand bass, right hand melody. Obviously all hammer on's. I would think he probably had a compressor in line some where. He was an H&K half stack. Tone wasn't bad, heavy processing though. I might get one of his DVD's just to get some insight into the metal shredders technique. It's good to have a riff or two like that in your pocket.

He kept saying how he invented this, or introduced that, blah, blah, blah. And how he was tight with Satriani, Vai, Gilbert. How he taugh Tom Morrello... And of course, really hawking the Dean guitars.

Oh yeah, and the Dean girls were there, too!

http://www.deanguitars.com/angelo/mab.html

That guy could be the best shred player of all time! He's extremely entertaining and a great technical player. Have you seen that insano quad-guitar he uses? Now that is rad!!!

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:13 am

He's the heart guitar guy isnt he? The first one anyway. Those double necked guitars that dont have the necks parallel on the same side but instead have each of the necks jeting out in opposite directions in like a 150 degree angle so they make an extra wide V shape.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:19 am

I thought Vai had the heart guitar, when he was with DLR....

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:33 am

You may be right but I thought MA had one or something similar. I know he has those wierd small body metal guitars lie honers but they are shaped wild and look like jet fighters. And frets that go up to 29 that he uses all the time. He plays Randalls.

Your up even earlier then I am.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:31 pm

Not sure who was first Vai or Batio with the splayed neck guitar. I remember that Star Licks video from the 80's where Batio was playing the double neck BC Rich Ironbird, he now plays a Dean version of an Ironbird. Vai had the heart shaped guitar in DLR.
I agree with you guys on his technique. The guys is fast as hell, the ambidestrous playing is neat to look at, but he has no soul. He used to play in Nitro in the 80's. Nitro was something like a non GIT version of Racer X, where all the musicians were shredders. Racer X I thought had some soul to it and wasn't taxing to listen to after 5 minutes.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:26 pm

To become a player of this TECHNICAL calibre, he must've played for 8 hrs a day as a teen/young adult; and thus probably has never had a real job like the rest of us. Some of his "material" was used in the first Bill 'n Ted movie for the Beethoven synthesizer mall scene. Major and minor scales, up and down, over and over again and again....

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:34 pm

I always wondered who did that music.

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:45 pm

NY Chief wrote:I almost choked when he claimed he had a patent on the dampener and how "his really good" friend Jennifer Batten uses one and how one day the shop phone rang. He answered it and the guy wanted to buy a dampener. He asked his name and the guy said Joseph. He asked, last name? Satriani. OHHH Hi Joe, it's Mike!! Yeah, well...

I swear I remember a Guitar Player issue years ago that had a pic of an old Jazz box that a veryy similar dampener. Whatever, good for him.

This guy used them. Guess Michael Angelo is a lot older than he looks..:

For the younger guys: It´s Scotty Moore. Used to play with Elvis in the 50´s...

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:44 pm

MacGaden wrote:
NY Chief wrote:I almost choked when he claimed he had a patent on the dampener and how "his really good" friend Jennifer Batten uses one and how one day the shop phone rang. He answered it and the guy wanted to buy a dampener. He asked his name and the guy said Joseph. He asked, last name? Satriani. OHHH Hi Joe, it's Mike!! Yeah, well...

I swear I remember a Guitar Player issue years ago that had a pic of an old Jazz box that a veryy similar dampener. Whatever, good for him.
This guy used them. Guess Michael Angelo is a lot older than he looks..:

For the younger guys: It´s Scotty Moore. Used to play with Elvis in the 50´s...

Oh good, I see the beginnings of another frivolous Gibson lawsuit brewin'......

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:57 pm

People have been making makeshift dampers for studio takes for even longer.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:07 pm

MacGaden wrote:
NY Chief wrote:I almost choked when he claimed he had a patent on the dampener and how "his really good" friend Jennifer Batten uses one and how one day the shop phone rang. He answered it and the guy wanted to buy a dampener. He asked his name and the guy said Joseph. He asked, last name? Satriani. OHHH Hi Joe, it's Mike!! Yeah, well...

I swear I remember a Guitar Player issue years ago that had a pic of an old Jazz box that a veryy similar dampener. Whatever, good for him.
This guy used them. Guess Michael Angelo is a lot older than he looks..:

For the younger guys: It´s Scotty Moore. Used to play with Elvis in the 50´s...

That's it, Mac!

Nothing worse than an incessant shredder than an incessant shredder with a delusional ego to match!

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:58 am

I saw this guy at a guitar clinic back in the mid-80s - I think I still have bits of it on cassette somewhere. It was funny...I remember when anyone would ask him to play some blues he would just cop a smarmy smile and say "Blues on, Dude!" then blow the person off and move onto the next question. Same thing with jazz, though to his credit, he did do maybe 30secs of jazz chords in the middle of one of his bumblebee soloing examples. I remember his band, Nitro...man, they were just awful...what was the singer's (using the term loosely) name? Jim Gilette, wasn't it? Biggest hair EVER! Actually, all of them did....*shiver* I chalk them up with the vinnie vincent invasion.

Lookie the page I found with the whole band, including the 4-neck guitar that de angelo used...holy spinal tap!

http://www.fiese-scheitel.de/NewFiles/nitro.html

guitarforhire · Post by **guitarforhire** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:46 pm

wow, thats a whole lotta hair, and i just fell on the ground laughing

I think David Gilmour or Hendrix can express more with one bend than batio can do in an entire song

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