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Post by SB Monster » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:29 pm

Just got his new album, How does he always sound so brand new? I know he's got the hottest producers and players but man! Most honest blueser ever? ( and Mr Riley B ) 8)

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Post by npminard » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:45 pm

Jeff Beck seems to sound newer and newer with each of his records...not as "pure" blues as Buddy Guy though. I'll have to check it out! 8)

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Post by SB Monster » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:14 am

Jeff Beck is one of the best players ever IMO, Sure not blues but jazz rock. He's always coming up with new tones and reinventing his style. I love the way he goes for things that he's not always sure he can pull off. He's gone a bit too electronic for me now but I can still appreciate how hard he's always searching for something new. Blow by Blow, wow.

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Post by NY Chief » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:45 pm

SB Monster wrote:Jeff Beck is one of the best players ever IMO, Sure not blues but jazz rock. He's always coming up with new tones and reinventing his style. I love the way he goes for things that he's not always sure he can pull off. He's gone a bit too electronic for me now but I can still appreciate how hard he's always searching for something new. Blow by Blow, wow.

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Not just yours, SB. Mine, too!

If you are that big a Blow by Blow fan you'll love this LP. It's a Custom Shop '54 RI w/ humbuckers finished in that gorgeous Oxblood burgundy, 1 pc bridge / tailpiece. Look familiar?

100 years ago I saw a note posted at Sam Ash in Hempstead. Said I can teach you how to play like Blackmore, Beck and Clapton. Well, Purple being IT for me then it was a no brainer. We hoofed our bicycles down to this guys house (who wasn't much older than us) and the first thing he taught us was "You'll Fool No One" not exactly an easy thing to do (especially then). then he asks "You guys like Jeff Beck?" We were like yeah, he's ok, he does that disco sounding stuff ("You know what I mean"). Well we certainly got an education. He turned us on to the JB Group and Rough & Ready, the Orange album, made us listen closely to what was going on on Wired and Blow by Blow and of course the full tilt boogie of BBA. The guy has done a lot of styles and is constantly evoleng. I don't care too much for the techno stuff either (he says he loves it) but the man's technique with the bar and his fingers is incredible. And when you catch him back in the bluesy / rock vein you realize why he does the techno stuff. He is simply so beyond the traditional stuff. Ever see what he did with Lulu and Tom Jones on the Scorcese Blues thing? Monster playing. How about when he anihilated Clapton on Further on up the Road on the Secret Policeman's show?

I have been listening to the Beckology box set lately and only know am I beginning to appreciate the ground he was already breaking in the Yardbirds.

Yeah, I'm a fan!
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Post by SB Monster » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:58 pm

Chief, Like the LP, Don't see that tailpiece that often, nice. I almost forgot to mention "wired". It and "blow by blow" are 'top shelf' among my favorite albums ever. that 4am feeling. Who was the drummer on Blow by Blow and who else did he play with? I've got an old vinyl copy with no personnel notes.
The drummer on 'wired', Narada Michael Walden ( he wrote half the tracks on it! ) is one of THE top men in my book. If you like that early seventies fusion sound you should check out his first solo album, 'Garden of Lovelight'. I'm not that fussed on anything he did after that, went a bit disco but this album is the dogs balls. He was only 19 I think when it was recorded and the drumming is totally on the money. He produced it as well and to his credit he lets Ray Gomez take the limelight on guitar, so much so that you'd be forgiven for thinking it was Gomez' album. Freaky Killer playin, I'm tellin ya!! Very JB but with his own wailing style, One of the greatest forgotten axe albums ever IMO. I know you'd love it for sure if those two JB albums are your thing.
I heard that JB did a shit hot set on the Clapton crossroads festival gig and left a few of the guys on stage completely slack jawed, EC included. Wonder why that's not on the DVD???

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Post by SB Monster » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:05 pm

Funny I remember reading an interview with Beck where he said that he thought that 'wired' and 'blow by blow' were the worst thingss he'd done?? I mean... just doesn't figure :?

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Post by NY Chief » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:37 pm

I nearly shit when I found that guitar. I had no idea Gibson was even making it (still). For shits and giggles I did a google search "Jeff Beck Les Paul" and there it was! And the seller lives in the next town! I hadda have it! Natcherly the neck is like a club (as Beck prefers). I might have to get it shaved a bit.


I think Bernard Purdie drummed on Blow by Blow IIRC. I found a live CD just after BbyB came out. It's really interesting to hear live versions of those cuts from that time. Makes you appreciate how much Sir George added to the production.

Ray Gomez? I didn't think anybody would remember him. I had a solo album by him years ago. I remember I really liked his playing.

The main reason I bought the Crossroads DVD was because of Beck. I was really pissed. The only shot I saw was a quick close up of his hands during a montage. I heard something about rain shortening his set but I also heard the same thing that he smoked and I'm not surpised. Probably was deliberately left off...
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Post by SB Monster » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:49 pm

Richard Bailey was the guy on BbB. just been googlin'. He' touring with snowy white at the minute. I've a dvd of Stanley Clarke at Montreaux 1976 with Ray Gomez and he rocks on that gig too, he really goes for it, very cool to see.

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Post by npminard » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:02 am

NY Chief wrote:
SB Monster wrote:Jeff Beck is one of the best players ever IMO, Sure not blues but jazz rock. He's always coming up with new tones and reinventing his style. I love the way he goes for things that he's not always sure he can pull off. He's gone a bit too electronic for me now but I can still appreciate how hard he's always searching for something new. Blow by Blow, wow.

Paul
Not just yours, SB. Mine, too!

If you are that big a Blow by Blow fan you'll love this LP. It's a Custom Shop '54 RI w/ humbuckers finished in that gorgeous Oxblood burgundy, 1 pc bridge / tailpiece. Look familiar?

100 years ago I saw a note posted at Sam Ash in Hempstead. Said I can teach you how to play like Blackmore, Beck and Clapton. Well, Purple being IT for me then it was a no brainer. We hoofed our bicycles down to this guys house (who wasn't much older than us) and the first thing he taught us was "You'll Fool No One" not exactly an easy thing to do (especially then). then he asks "You guys like Jeff Beck?" We were like yeah, he's ok, he does that disco sounding stuff ("You know what I mean"). Well we certainly got an education. He turned us on to the JB Group and Rough & Ready, the Orange album, made us listen closely to what was going on on Wired and Blow by Blow and of course the full tilt boogie of BBA. The guy has done a lot of styles and is constantly evoleng. I don't care too much for the techno stuff either (he says he loves it) but the man's technique with the bar and his fingers is incredible. And when you catch him back in the bluesy / rock vein you realize why he does the techno stuff. He is simply so beyond the traditional stuff. Ever see what he did with Lulu and Tom Jones on the Scorcese Blues thing? Monster playing. How about when he anihilated Clapton on Further on up the Road on the Secret Policeman's show?

I have been listening to the Beckology box set lately and only know am I beginning to appreciate the ground he was already breaking in the Yardbirds.

Yeah, I'm a fan!
Great looking LP. I want one of those so bad, but at around 2500, out of my budget. Someday though I'd like to get one. I read that Jeff Beck's was originally a goldtop w/P-90's and he had it painted black and added the humbuckers? I also like how they captured the Jeff Beck-ness in the guitar w/o writing "Jeff Beck" on it. I think the signature series guitars shouldn't have a new and funny logos on it. i.e. Joe Perry's Boneyard LP and the AC/DC Angus Young Cartoon.
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Post by NY Chief » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:49 pm

I got a great deal on my "Beck" Paul. It has some "rack rash" at the headstock where it supposedly sat in a music store untouced for years. 'Magine THAT! The guy I got it from is a Paul collector / dealer and just wanted to move it. Not much demand I guess. 'Magine that, TOO! The story I hear is that Beck picked it up in Nashville (Grhun's?) and it already had the humbuckers installed and re-painted in the Oxblood color.

I also agree no "Jeff Beck" anywhere. If you know, you know. If you don't you don't deserve to!!!
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Post by npminard » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:51 pm

NY Chief wrote:I got a great deal on my "Beck" Paul. It has some "rack rash" at the headstock where it supposedly sat in a music store untouced for years. 'Magine THAT! The guy I got it from is a Paul collector / dealer and just wanted to move it. Not much demand I guess. 'Magine that, TOO! The story I hear is that Beck picked it up in Nashville (Grhun's?) and it already had the humbuckers installed and re-painted in the Oxblood color.

I also agree no "Jeff Beck" anywhere. If you know, you know. If you don't you don't deserve to!!!
You're correct on the story, I remember now. That one piece stopbar tailpiece is really cool! Again, beautiful Les Paul!

Was Oxblood a standard production color, btw?

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Post by NY Chief » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:58 pm

[quote="npminard
Was Oxblood a standard production color, btw?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. It was one off color that somebody did and Beck just happened to luck in on it. I was sure for years that the Blow By Blow was black until I read an interview with him. The pics do NOT do it justice. It's a really bitchin color. Real deep. That's one guitar I thought I woud never see in person much less own a copy of. The Gibson boys really nailed this one. Even has that fat ass neck. I don't know how Beck plays those big necks. Then again I don't know how he plays a lot of things!!
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Post by MacGaden » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:03 pm

NY Chief wrote:Then again I don't know how he plays a lot of things!!
You mean like this ? http://homepage.mac.com/gaden/Amps-n-st ... ter14.html

Saw him do this, and Where were you in Germany a couple of years back. He was 10 feet away, and I was watching his hands closely. Still haven´t got a clue.
Well maybe half a clue, but... :shock:
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Post by SB Monster » Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:25 am

MacG, nice one :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by 908ssp » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:43 pm

Yea I am big JB fan too. That live clip is from the Live in Japan DVD great DVD too. I love the stuff he has done since Guitar Shop and his last CD Jeff with David Torn producing. Amazing tone from a 50 DSL isn't it?

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