Jimi Hendrix' Gear and Mods at West Coast Organ and Amp

[frenchie]

No bias. Common sense. Something you don't seem to have. I said, if you knew how to read, there were huge Altec Lancing cabs onstage for monitoring during the 1970 shows.

really sad, you're an ignorant idiot. PS, you cannot PROVE the use of a Guild amp (for reamping) no photos of it, etc. Yet, any idiot can see Jimi's signal chain from guitar to pedals to amp. You CANNOT prove otherwise. LOL Asshole

first we never said it was direct signal re-amping , but (at least me) mic'ed then fed to guild 's input then fed to sunn cabs ....So it's pretty obvious the signal chain is pretty standard from guitar to plexis ...second i know how to read , for if i didn't , i wouldn't be able to see the pitiful display of your name calling and pseudo authority arguments you try to pass as logic ...i can ( and i did ) prove at least one sunn cab was directed to the public and not on stage in the bog show , which shows the re-amping , i also did prove 6550 were in the first plexi of the woodstock performance .... You cannot disprove the logic of my arguments so in the last pages you carefully thread around my arguments , either you try to forget they are here and focus on petty side points , or authoritatively just say they are not possible without explaining why or how .... You clearly are the lunatic here .... And it's pretty bizarre you're still not banned considering the collection of free insults you spread around , this way polluting friendly and constructive threads ....

You proved nothing. Neither did Dave. Sorry, this bullshit circle jerk is not worth even looking at anymore. The amount of BS being perpetrated is sinful. You are a joke. This thread is being laughed at the Jimi Torrent site. Pure fiction.
Still waiting for proof of the filed fret, the Guild onstage, etc. All HORSESHIT. Carry on anus

man i must quote myself now : "you try to forget they are here and focus on petty side points" ...that's what you just did in the instant , i focused on clear points , you can't disprove them so you forget they are here and redirect on side petty points , that we clearly said were controversial and just possibilities ( because we choose carefully our words contrary to you ...we know psychos lurking on the web and don't wanna leave them a chance to snipe from afar ) ... the amount of dirty forum tactics you pull out is just sinful ... as is your focalisation on everything turning around or in the shitter .... but it's not really astonishing from an obsessive little hairy fan girl who spent 43 years collecting photos of her idol , and try to pass that as a badge of intellectual authority ...

[shakti]

The post I deleted a couple of pages back originally read:

Now where have I seen that facepalm before?

I deleted it because I decided to give the smelly one the benefit of doubt. Obviously I was wrong. The facepalm gave him away right away. Folks, please just ignore the troll and let's carry on.

[C J H]

This thread is being laughed at the Jimi Torrent site.

Umm, who gives a shit

Everyone, please stop with the name-calling and low-bows, act your age. Plus you seem to be argumenting for the same thing; Jimis guitar didn´t only go through the Marshalls but in one way or the other also went through the P.A...?

It is ok to not agree with everything in this thread, it is also ok to agree with everything. It does not mean that one is desillusional one way or the other.. However, I try to approach what´s in here as valid hypothesis. I´ve tried the hypothesis of 6550´s and believe that its applicable. Next up is the WC-fuzz..

Do I doubt that Jimi used re-amping with the guild in question live, yes. Mainly due to its uniqueness, what if it blew in the middle of a gig? Do I doubt the pictures Dave shared are of Jimi´s old amp, no. It would be a useful tool for achieving different tones in the studio. FYI something not too different is built today by a well-known ampmodder here in Sweden utilizing a certain tiny orange-amp.

Anyway, what I´m trying to say is that I do not doubt what Dave is sharing and don´t see the point of him lying about it. The 6550 deal is done for me, its what Dave claims he put in there and its what frenchies photo and math analysis tells meut maybe most importantly, for ME, it is the sounds I hear when trying this approach myself.

I think you, stinkway, are missing the point that we are simply discussing and theorizing using Dave´s input, applying it to our amps and other gear and judging with our ears. Keyword; discussion. No low-blows, no insults.

So, if you wanna join in on the discussion, feel free to do so backing the arguments of your choice. You obviously have alot of good visual documentation to contribute with..

If not, then please go back to the "jimi torrent site" and leave us with our "fiction".

[neikeel]

The post I deleted a couple of pages back originally read:

Now where have I seen that facepalm before?

I deleted it because I decided to give the smelly one the benefit of doubt. Obviously I was wrong. The facepalm gave him away right away. Folks, please just ignore the troll and let's carry on.

Yup, coincidence that Matriarch stopped posting on Sunday 30th Dec and Stinkway started on Monday 1st Dec.

As I said before this is a forum to share ideas, debate points appropriately, not tear into someone else just because they do not agree with you. Personally I share some scepticism about certain aspects, how much was experimentation, how much was actually used consistently are all up for debate. I liked seeing the pics of the Jimi gigs and hope to see some more.
This thread has been locked once so please cut the inflammatory BS (frenchie can't help it - call it gallic temperament!), but one person disses the whole forum very publicly but is like a dog with a bone and needs to come back and 'contribute' time after time after time.
Once more act like grown ups and make your own judgements.

[Xplorer]

carlygtr, matriarch , stinky way , whatever .... i think the walking dead is gone now ....
anyway, he said : "this bullshit circle jerk is not worth even looking at anymore" , so we can probably carry on now ....
the torrent site is cool, plenty of pictures and bootlegs that stink hole took from there and post here. i can do that too, it's easy.

Do I doubt that Jimi used re-amping with the guild in question live, yes. Mainly due to its uniqueness, what if it blew in the middle of a gig?

i think i remember that Dave said previously right from the beginning, that it wasn't easy to use this amp for lives, and he used it more likely in the beginning, but kept it and certainly played it later too.
correct me if i'm wrong.

Now the thing is : what we start to hear over the various clips and experiments, clearly goes in the right direction, and you can't faint it, it doesn't come from nowhere. and that's very exciting ...

[bill bokey]

Oops... normal service will be resumed as soon as possible ....

[daveweyer]

I don't know about you all, but the last three posts from Stinkway just cracked me up. I couldn't stop laughing!
I mean, who in the world would come up with that for an answer to all this?????
Just too funny, it sounds like a line from "Man In The Moon".

I kind of thought this was a forensic based forum, where the contributors welcome all evidence which could in any way fill in a greater narrative about Jimi Hendrix and his music, irrespective of whether that evidence supports or dismantles a personal narrative or belief system. If someone can show something which enhances a story consistent with the other evidence surrounding it, then it completes part of the forensic discovery. If evidence appears which refutes the story, then that must be factored into the narrative as well, even if it changes the direction the story was heading.

I can offer some bits and pieces from personal experience, and if you find them compelling enough you will undoubtedly rearrange your puzzle pieces to fit, that is unless you are so invested in a particular outcome that you will self destruct if that narrative changes.

I have proposed some unconventional theories about Jimi Hendrix, his gear, and his relationship to me and West Coast Organ and Amp Service. I expect doubt, and I expect evidence to be presented which will either support those theories, or put them to rest. I do not take doubt as a personal insult, only a healthy response to what might be considered blasphemy against the conventional Jimi Hendrix "canon of law". I'm not like a late '60s guru, where the acolytes sit around the feet of the master and swallow everything he says without so much as a question.
How much fun would that be??? I think you'll find plenty of other forums for that.

Time will no doubt tell much, as the theories are put to the test. (and Yeah, I know, fuck my mother!)

[Tone seaker]

Can any one tell me what this is on the front of the stage at Berkeley. I have wondered for years. you can see it great during voodoo Child at Berkely but there is no video on you tube.

Just reposted cause it is a interesting question about Hendrix's gear . Can or does any one have a idea about this thing. Thks
I found this video and you can see the device at around 3:45 in and it has a speaker cord looks like pluged into it but no speakers. Any ideas
Video Link bellow
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTI3NTQ0MTMy.html

[Tenderfoot]

Wow, well all I know is I've wanted that BOG tone since the 70's and will try to get there through you guys insight with my 45/100 clone if possible.

[bill bokey]

Could it just be some of the PA speakers ? I see at least three of them with two jacks each, like speakers in //

[NY Chief]

We had quite a serious discussion about whether or not Jimi used any other cabs or amps as monitors, especially guitar monitors

Jeff Beck has been doing this for years. What look like conventional wedge shaped vocal monitiors in front of him are actually 2-12 cabs made by Marshall for him. There are many pics where you can even see the Marshall logo on them.

[frenchie]

(frenchie can't help it - call it gallic temperament!)

you know some toxic people just need a little nudge to fall off the cliff ...i don't do that very often but here i plead guilty

You're right to be doubtful anyway neil , that's the way it's meant to be , that's also why i haven't digged that much about the fret notches and even the power transformers , i don't bother to even talk about things that cannot be proved with 100% accuracy .... even though it stimulates my curiosity coming from a tech who obviously told a lot of other things that are just totally right , but i'll stay before this line.

[daveweyer]

I do know that some venues had dead spots right near the stage, and it was standard practice to put monitors on the stage for the audience in those situations. It's still done today. The feeds to the monitors could be certain mixes, like just the vocals for instance, if there were a very loud back line which would otherwise drown out the first few rows with instruments only. I do large venue installations and I regularly account for the first few rows with a separate system. (all hidden these days)
Glad you hung in there Tone.

Did you notice how much fun the little girl in the dark red shirt was having, right in front of Jimi. What ecstasy!

Frenchie, and all, thanks for the support.

And Bill Bokey, the tones are just amazing. I'm particularly pleased to see close variants of the Jimi Hendrix settings I suggested working so well.
This forum has a LOT of potential.

[JimiJames]

"...This forum has a LOT of potential..."

oh gee. thanks.

[fakeox]

"...This forum has a LOT of potential..."

oh gee. thanks.

I agree.