Thank the lord!!!! I'm finished!!! No more pedals to buy!!

[Bluesgeetar]

Well. In my swirly department I have a old huge grey BOSS CE-1, old 77 MXR flanger, H&K tube rotosphere, Sweetsound Ultravibe with footpedal made by Sweet, and a old BOSS Tremolo Pan. So what is missing!?

This: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0038892768


I just won this baby off ebay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always wanted just one great sounding phaser. Well I think I will be pretty happy. Now my swirly want collection is complete. I already got every boost, fuzz, delay, wah etc. that I have ever wanted but this last one thing was the one that kept my pedal army from being finished. Now I'm done. On to building more Marshall clones now.

[Flames1950]

Whaddaya mean what's missing? I'll tell you....a real Leslie/Vibrotone to break your back, of course!!!!

[Bluesgeetar]

Actually, I ain't a huge fan of SRV. Not even a little. Never wanted a vibrotone/leslie. Although! I do have a Leslie, I just don't know how to hook into it. I have a 1968 Hammond T212 organ with a large leslie thing in it. Wish I knew how to rig it to plug the guitar into the thing.

[Guitar Adjuster]

Actually, I ain't a huge fan of SRV. Not even a little. Never wanted a vibrotone/leslie. Although! I do have a Leslie, I just don't know how to hook into it. I have a 1968 Hammond T212 organ with a large leslie thing in it. Wish I knew how to rig it to plug the guitar into the thing.

You haven't robbed the tubes out of it yet?

[Bluesgeetar]

No. I am up to my eyeballs in tubes. Don't need any. Thanks to a secret place I know of and a hellof a good relationship with the owner, I got plenty of tubes now. This is only if your talking about USA and old european made 12AX7, 12Ay7, 12At7, 7025, 5751, 12Au7, 6201 etc. etc. types. As far as power tubes? Well I am pretty happy with Svetlana 6L6GC and VA KT66. So I am set.

No need to rob vintage organs anymore for me.

[Flames1950]

Actually, I ain't a huge fan of SRV. Not even a little. Never wanted a vibrotone/leslie. Although! I do have a Leslie, I just don't know how to hook into it. I have a 1968 Hammond T212 organ with a large leslie thing in it. Wish I knew how to rig it to plug the guitar into the thing.

SRV aside I just find them more "organic" for swirly chorus cleans. But I built mine from an old organ rotating speaker assembly so it's set up for guitar from the git-go. But you better get some heavy duty casters!!!!

[Bluesgeetar]

I ain't even a little bit of a SRV fan. But anyway. Their is a huge huge reason why the CE-1 and MXR Phase 90-100 Flanger and univibe are so famous. THey sound so dreamy. Alot of major big big hitter guitarists use these pedals and not Leslies or rotating speaker thangs. But yet they had most definately access to Leslies but choose these pedals.

When I bought these pedals the furthest thing from my mind was am I getting a Leslie sound. I bought a CE-1 cause I wanted that amazing chorus, I bought the MXR stuff cause Garcia, Gilmour, and many others, I bought the UNivibe clone cause of Trower and Jimi. Bought the Rotosphere cause it just sounds cool as hell. Maybe one day I'll break down and figure out how to rig my axe into that Leslie on my Hammond but I am in no hurry for now.

"Organic"

Well my friend, you must have not plugged into a Sweetsound Ultravibe.

[Flames1950]

I'm not arguing that Univibes and their clones have their own sound, but they just don't send it in all directions around the room like the Leslie......unless you're a fan of the Fender Satellite........

Even cooler is plugging one of my 100's into a 4x12, and my JTM45 into the Leslie (with almost no bass but lots of treble/mids since it's a 10" speaker.) The 100 drowns out the Leslie when the guitar volume is on ten, but when you roll back to clean up the Leslie sound starts to blend in and be heard.....really cool chorused cleans without hitting a switch.......

I sold my Rotosphere after building the Leslie, although I do keep an older Boss chorus around for that more "processed" type of sound.

[Bluesgeetar]

Oh I see. Your talking about sound for your own enjoyment. I was refering to stereo recorded sound. I try to keep my love focused to sounds that I can get on Stereo taped for other listeners. People listening to a recorded Stereo Leslie can't appreciate it as much as the person standing beside it. And this is the main reason I ain't in a hurry to get the Leslie thang going. A person listening to it in stereo can't get near the fun out of it as the guitarist standing next to it. So I focus on stereo sound field geared type effects. The Rotosphere has stereo outs and sounds close enough for me and the CE-1 has stereo outs. The new ones sound like doo doo. I have one of the first Rotospheres. UNless everyone is listening through 5.1 or 7.1 surround, the Leslie is useless for me.

[Flames1950]

Mine was an early Rotosphere too; it sounded really cool but I wished it had adjustable speeds like the later ones, the slow was cool but I wanted to slow the fast down so it was a little less warbly. Schematics were near impossible to find too, so modding it looked bleak.......

I think you can get those cool stereo/surround sounds with the Leslie, but it will become a situation where mic placement is absolutely critical; you have to have at least two mic's (one on each side) and a third on the top is even better, but if they aren't in the exact spot to truly capture the sound you're grabbing ankles.........

In the end maybe we're just agreeing to disagree......

[JimiJames]

I know didly squat about that Leslie but I do like my RotoSphere.
At a blues show I had someone once tell me where's the keyboard player?. I said right there playin' that Strat... I hear keyboards he says...
He looked at me sideways and I straitened him out and pointed to the pedal on the floor.
Definitely a cool effect if your the second guitar player or want to fatten up the band comping those triad chords...

I'm using a Phase 45 instead of the 90 or 100.
I sold them years ago after finding the 45 in which I thought was more of a subtle effect/tone than the older brothers...more usable for me.
I agree though, that if you want "thick 'n Juicy" those 90's & 100's are the shit.

"No more pedals to buy"......Paleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease !

Nice score BTW.


Jimmie K.

[Bluesgeetar]

it sounded really cool but I wished it had adjustable speeds like the later ones

There in lies my next project. TO wire that stupid foot switch speed controller with either a potentiometer to control the speed or a foot pedal speed controller like a Univibe. I hate beyond reason that little footswitch speed thing. That is the most poorest and unuser friendly little turd I have ever seen. German designed didn't cut the mustard this time.

Nice score BTW.

Man you ain't lying! I been trying get a script one for less than $200 for months. It ain't possible! 100s are just as high as 90s. I saw this one not but a hour after he listed it. By that time 27 other folks had looked at it. But instead of procrastinating I jumped on it. The last two and very recent script 100s that went on ebay went for around 230.

I got my 77 grey Flanger for $30! It had a broke power cord. A local legendary effects and synth and tube amp and audio electronics repair guy actually had a stash of 3 original MXR power cords he had gotten for repair back in the 70s. Threw one on there for $12.

[Flames1950]

The footswitch for the two speeds is directly derived from the Leslie/Vibratone, where you only have an on/off switch and a footswitch to select slow or fast speed. But the fast speed on my Leslie is so much cooler than the fast speed on my Rotosphere was, a little slower and deeper.
Good luck on the mods, I never got anywhere trying to find someone with schems for that thing!!! And nothing seemed to gel in my head looking at that PCB. (The pedal is a real joy to disassemble too!!)

[Bluesgeetar]

As far as I can tell it is just a momentary switch? Well if I ever get it figured out I'll fill you guys in. I tried to get some help over at Arons Stomp box forum a wayz back. But those nerds wanted nothing to do with helping me cause it was a already made pedal. I really hated that forum. Way to many Engineers on there with tons of snobbery. Not to mention the place is fackin over run with distortion boxes. Aron really should rename the forum to Arons DIY distortionbox Forum. I think that is why I love this forum so much. Most everyone here is so grounded and down to earth. I've been apart of many forums over the years and this one so far is the kindest and warm.

[Flames1950]

Aah, you want to replace the "breaker" switch then? Not that I'm much more help with that knowledge........