Anyone notice that a day after elections, gas went back up?

Bluesgeetar · Post by **Bluesgeetar** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:26 pm

So the day after the elections are over, gas crept back up!!!! After months of slowly creeping down. At least that is what I've seen here in the Seattle area. I hate Bush! Just got his buds in the oil industry to lower prices for elections to try and boost Republican votes. Now they are creeping up again. I figured they would at least wait a little while so people wouldn't suspect anything. But hell no! They just jumped right back into it the damn day after! Jeez!

Guitar Adjuster · Post by **Guitar Adjuster** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:47 pm

From the looks of the Voter turn out and election results I guess we all sent a clear message........

BTY---I paid $1.89 a gallon on 11/3/06 in San Angelo, TX. Thanks Mr. Bush for a cheap tank of gas----now get the F..k out of Washington and Iraq!!!

jngreene79 · Post by **jngreene79** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:16 pm

now get the F..k out of Washington and Iraq!!!

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:24 am

Low price is relative, because at the current rate, we're still double what we were paying at the pump in 2000. I can't believe I used to be mad at Clinton for that 5 cent a gallon gas tax increase. Big deal; it went from a $1.00 a gallon to $1.05, compared to no tax increase; and $1.05 to over $3.00 a gallon increase during the Bush years. Oil profits are at record levels, which proves we're getting screwed. One could say that this price increase was like a tax paid to oil companies, and oil countries. That's where the money went, follow the money. It didn't sudenly cost them more to drill and pump the oil out of the ground. No, that was just a huge transfer of wealth, just like Republicans complain about when they complain about progressive taxation.

The price triples, and they blame it on Terrorism and Katrina, then they claim credit for reducing it by a 3rd right before the 2006 election and act like they're doing us a favor. Now I want that money back bitch!
Impose a fine on the Oil companies and make them pay all their profit, back to 2000 ratios., with penalties for messing up the economy. They should have to pay all those auto workers. Democrats I can't stand you usualy, but please go after these oil companies! Break up their mergers, repeal nafta, raise the Min Wage,and get us out if IRAQ, do what you're good for, for once. They'll probably turn the next 2 years into a trial of Bush.
Pay back's a M'FO, for Clinton's impeachment.

It's funny how they got gas down so low right before the election, but if it was more than a coincidence, it didn't pay off did it. Personaly I think the price went down because the previous increase slowed the economy down, and changed the fuel consumption, and car buying habits of many typical drivers around the world. Now manufacterers of Cars are shutting down plants and retooling,laying off or buying out Auto worker's contracts., and people are being more conscience of their fuel consumption. I'm a V8 guy, allways have beeen, but I'd drive a death trap Prius to work if it meant we could could live without foriegn oil, and bring home our troops sooner. Even so, I drive less now, and am way more conscience of my fuel consumption.

What if, around the world, every worker who could, rode a Ten Speed to work for a month.? Maybe we could get gas down another buck..

F These oil companies..let's exert our power.

Sorry for being so heated about this, I have a family member being shot at over this stuff in Afganistan over this BS. I'd like to see him come home in one piece.

908ssp · Post by **908ssp** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:46 am

You guys are full it.

Guitar Adjuster · Post by **Guitar Adjuster** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:49 pm

908ssp wrote:You guys are full it.

Why do you say that?

Bluesgeetar · Post by **Bluesgeetar** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:32 pm

I feel sad. At this rate Economists are saying in 20 to 30 years that America will be almost third world country status. I'm already planning to bail out and move to Europe or UK or Ireland or maybe even Canada. As a RN I can do that easily. Thank God I choose this line of work. But the only way to change our government is to make them look at the end of a gun and I don't see Americans doing that. Americans will attack and eat each other alive before they make the government make some real changes. Yeah, so we put the Dems back in charge. So we picked the lesser of two evils for the moment. Dems and Repubs are both gonna run us in the dirt so to me we are stuck and screwed unless we take drastic measures, but that ain't gonna happen. So it's on to greener pastures. I am a middle class American. That translates into-I am the Governments favorite and only whore.

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:34 pm

The US has faults, but it is still the most efficient economy in the world and without significant economic changes that wont change much.

It makes sense that if the world oil buyers/speculators suspect that under new management, terrorism will gain strength and oil price manipulation from certain oil rich areas will increase, prices will go up. Combine that with the a snowballs chance in hell of new field exploration/exploitation and we will see even more of the same.

-Andy

Schnickelfritz · Post by **Schnickelfritz** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:01 pm

I don't know about you guys but around here I am seeing more compacts and less SUV's. Kinda like deja vu via '73 all over again......

Bluesgeetar · Post by **Bluesgeetar** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:28 pm

The US has faults, but it is still the most efficient economy in the world

Do your research bro. We ain't sittin so pretty like the government and media like to brainwash us into thinking. Whole lotta folks doin better than us.

saborthw · Post by **saborthw** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:04 am

Remember that India and China are industrializing so we are not the only fish in the sea when it comes to huge oil consumption and we are reliant on those crazy Middle East oil producing nations and OPEC. We need to be self sufficient, reliant on American oil or alternative fuels. Those jackasses in Washington which WE elected put us in the shit along time ago. We now are paying for our own stupidity.

If you are not happy with your Representitive or Senators call them, send them E Mail Let them know how you feel, and If they dont respond vote for someone else. We as a nation are to passive to be revolutionaries
We will stop buying that $5.00 dollar cup of Starbucks and dump that cash into the gas tank. Government could drop gas prices by cutting the tax on gas but do you think they will ? ..... I think not
Scott

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:02 am

All these factors contribute, (Not just with oil, but also with steel and concrete powder), but the oil refiners try to maximise their effect, and are more than happy to see the price at the pump triple, when their cost of oil only doubled, by manipulating when they switch blends, and other ways of messing with the supply. The tree huggers, who bloock new refineries from being built are actually their best friends, cause if we built more refineries, they'd lose some of their grip on the supply of the refined fuels.. . They're not just passing on the costs. Profit are at gouge type levels, and it's like theft AFAIK, because they are is acting like the oligopoly. I knew this would happen once all those Oil mergers (like exxon/Mobil) were allowed by both parties. As much as I hate Walmart (China-Mart), I would love to see them go into refining, and do to the the oil business what they have done to the MOM and POP retail business. Maybe they could sell to the MOM and POP gas stations, what's left of them after all these mergers. Now if you could allow Chinamart to refine, but not own gas stations. That would be key, because they're on their way to eliminating every MOM and POP gas station as it stands. Where are they getting their refined fuel?

Too bad we can't outsource CEOs, so that the workers in the factories stop getting screwed. .

I'd like to outsource CEOs, Lawyers, and Insurance companies.

If it was my decision, I'd increase refining capcity by stadardizing and limiting the number of refined blends, and raise cafe standards by at least 10 MPG for starters.

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:14 am

Some recent geo studies estimate that the oil field off the Cali coast is actually comparable to the field in Iran. Exploiting this would significantly reduce our dependence. (not to mention Alaska, Florida, and deep water drilling in the gulf)

Breaking OPEC's grip on pricing would be as simple as passing a bill that specified granting exploration drilling permits equal to OPEC production cuts. OPEC would not risk losing market share.

I do completely agree that there is serious culusion between the oil companies with reguards to gas pricing. On top of that they play games with their cost/price structures to make it look like they can't help it. ie not making profits on gasoline by raising the price they pay themselves for the oil before refining. People accept the "terror premium" on oil but get really pissed off about winfalls in gasoline.

-Andy

Maschinenmann · Post by **Maschinenmann** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:31 am

Beyond the greed of the oil corps and the Detroit automakers, its supply and demand. Too many gas guzzling vehicles on the road. Everytime I see some soccer mom driving a full size suburban all by herself it pisses me off. Doesn't anyone else remember or have learned from the oil embargos of '73? Those that don't learn from history.......

worldoftone · Post by **worldoftone** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:45 am

Those that don't learn from history....... Rolling Eyes

That soccer mom driving that Suburban was most likely not even born in '73!

- WOT

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Anyone notice that a day after elections, gas went back up?

Anyone notice that a day after elections, gas went back up?

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