They executed Saddam today

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Post by Andy » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:17 pm

To finish this I believe that Sadam should be buried in and unknown pit in the sand, preventing the "marterdom" from perpetuating.

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Post by mightymike » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:51 pm

Too Late for that.
Isn't he buried in the Saddam Mosque or something? with his sons who also went down fighting, which is considered honorable in their culture.

As far as the Sunnis are concerned, he made his peace with Allah before he died, and all his sins are forgiven. He's their Martyr now

They probably look at his reign as the good old days, compared to the Shiite death squads, and Mahdi Army infiltrated police depts that exist now.

And here our soldiers are stuck in the middle. They have that PM stopping our troops from going after Moqtada Al Sadr.
This is like Vietnam in that sense. Politicians running the war.

Bush's dad was right to leave Saddam in power to offset Iran.
But everyone said he didn't finish the job.
Isn't Hindsight great.

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Post by Bluesgeetar » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:03 am

It can best be summed up with: "Life is a bitch, then the US government gets involved and it get's worse"


Let's be clear; I love my country, it's my government that scares me. :x

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Post by mightymike » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:25 am

+1

I have a 12 year old son, and fear this war will still be around when
he's of fighting age. I don't want him to go to Iraq and die.
for what?

A Iraninan puppet state?

F-That

I love my country too, but those 3000+ didn't need to die.
If Iraq really was a threat, just Daisy cutter ever square inch of their country, and leave our boys home. Same goes for Iran.

If it was good enough for Dresdin, it's good enough for them.

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Post by Bluesgeetar » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:43 am

Daisy cutter
I used to be in the US Air Force. Daisy Cutter is one fine damn bomb in my book! It ain't nuclear but it will for sure get your point across. :twisted:

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Post by mightymike » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:03 pm

No Nuclear Winter with Daisy Cutters.

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Post by bluefuzzguitar » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:34 pm

[quote="St August"][quote="bluefuzzguitar"]Oh and your the Authority on Voting Fraud... Your worse than the French... If theres one country in this world that has fair electionsd its us..
Yeah the politians might be corrupt and out to line there own pockets.. But the elections are on the up and up and dont come back on me with the whole hanging chad liberial bullshit... :evil:[/quote]

You must be the last 'Bushwhacked' person in America. That French bashing thing is tired. Start eating your 'Freedom fries' and gulping your beer and stay stupid.

To the Daisy Cutter loving crowd I say, you guys are either very sick or you don't know what you're talking about:

http://www.rense.com/general43/crypeace.htm

You talk about decimating countries and people like they're nothing. These are innocent human lives you're talking about!

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Post by St August » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:07 pm

bluefuzzguitar wrote:
St August wrote:
bluefuzzguitar wrote:Oh and your the Authority on Voting Fraud... Your worse than the French... If theres one country in this world that has fair electionsd its us..
Yeah the politians might be corrupt and out to line there own pockets.. But the elections are on the up and up and dont come back on me with the whole hanging chad liberial bullshit... :evil:
You must be the last 'Bushwhacked' person in America. That French bashing thing is tired. Start eating your 'Freedom fries' and gulping your beer and stay stupid.

To the Daisy Cutter loving crowd I say, you guys are either very sick or you don't know what you're talking about:

http://www.rense.com/general43/crypeace.htm

You talk about decimating countries and people like they're nothing. These are innocent human lives you're talking about!

Mike
The only stupid ones are you and your country and the Ill mind my own business and maybe it will all go away approach to the world
Wake up and smell the shit your shovelin.. The innocent are now protected not being slauthered by the thousands... Which would continue
if you and all the Bleeding heart No Ball s SOB had there way... Take a hike

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Post by bluefuzzguitar » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:11 pm

[quote="St August"]The only stupid ones are you and your country and the Ill mind my own business and maybe it will all go away approach to the world
Wake up and smell the shit your shovelin.. The innocent are now protected not being slauthered by the thousands... Which would continue
if you and all the Bleeding heart No Ball s SOB had there way... Take a hike[/quote]

There's no arguing with shit-for-brains viewers of Fox. This says more about you than it does about me.

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Post by mightymike » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:48 pm

God I hope I didn't come off like a FOX/Bush or CNN/Kerry guy.
I voted Reform in the last election.

I don't want to kill all those people, I want our guys out.
I was only saying a hypothetical of using the Daisy Cutters in self defense, iff there was a REAL Nuclear threat , verses sending our troops to die fighting house to house, or using Nukes.

If it comes down to us or them, use our technology, and give our troops a break.

I guess that did come off as flipant, and uncaring. Sorry about that.
I want world peace as much as any one.

But you have to survive, to have peace.
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Post by St August » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:58 pm

bluefuzzguitar wrote:
St August wrote:The only stupid ones are you and your country and the Ill mind my own business and maybe it will all go away approach to the world
Wake up and smell the shit your shovelin.. The innocent are now protected not being slauthered by the thousands... Which would continue
if you and all the Bleeding heart No Ball s SOB had there way... Take a hike
There's no arguing with shit-for-brains viewers of Fox. This says more about you than it does about me.

Mike
It certainly Does........

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Post by texwest » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:05 am

bluefuzzguitar wrote:
saborthw wrote:The world is a better place today because Saddam is gone

Scott
Saddam was executed for the deaths of 148 people. GW Bush was responsible for 155 executions as governor of Texas, most of them as a result of unfair trials, just like Saddam. Under GW Bush, Texas became the state with the highest execution rate. Among those executed were underaged and mentally ill people. GW Bush's precious Iraq war has so far been responsible for the deaths of an estimated 655,000 people, most of them women and children. This war may well claim a million innocent lives. But remember, they hate us because we're free. Seems to me they hung the wrong guy.

Mike
Bluefuzz,
Quite respectfully, you really don't understand a system of government with three coequal branches of power. Bush was not responsible for these people's deaths. It was the legislature of the state of Texas that set the rules for the death penalty. It was the courts that interpreted those laws and found these people guilty of heinous crimes. It was the courts that condemned them to death. The only thing the Governer does is sign the final papers to let the exucution happen. Of course people committing murder and rape had something to do with it too.

Again respectfully Bluefuzz, you have been mesmerized by propaganda. Think carefully about your position before you make outrageous accusations. You might try questioning things that you hear. european news is quite left biased you know. Keep that in mind. The executions in Texas aren't Bush's fault; they are the will of the people, being enacted by the legislature and the courts. The only thing the governer has the power to do is to postpone the execution or give a full pardon. Do you give a full pardon to a rapist or killer? Think about your positions Bluefuzz before you spout off.

And you are saying Bush should have been hung. Sorry to offend you, but Bush didn't kill over a hundred thousand people with mustard gas in Kurdestan and Iran, Saddam did. I wonder where all those chemical weapons went? Anyone who knows anything about this knows that he DID have chemical weapons because he did use them. And used them on his own people. Did he destroy them or are they somewhere else now? Thats the question I would like answered.
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Post by texwest » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:09 am

By the way blue fuzz you are entitled to being against the policies of the the United States and Bush. I just recommend using rational arguments, not ones using emotional twisting of half truths. I welcome talking to anyone about policy, but it often turns into these irrational emotional arguments condemning certain leaders with wildly hateful statements. Doesn't true democracy mean that we should respect each other's differences including our political and ideological differences? Please lower your anger level at the conservative people in the world. What we need is less anger more understanding. Stop hating people who you don't agree with and that happen to have political power right now. Please read the quote at the bottom of my post.
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Post by texwest » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:31 am

bluefuzzguitar wrote:
JimiJames wrote:Believe it or not the people in the U.S. have a choice. Those people in Iraq as well as others DON'T !!!
I seem to remember GW Bush calling Iraq under US occupation a 'democracy'. I also seem to remember massive vote fraud has been taking place in every US election since 2000, which led to GW Bush stealing the presidency. The only reason it didn't work in 2006 is because people voted overwhelmingly Democratic, so much so that even vote fraud couldn't switch the vote. Choice, you say?

Mike
Well Blue Fuzz, all the recounts that were done by all the major newspapers showed that Bush won in Florida in 2000. And there is no way that he controls all the newspapers. most of them are left leaning and completely against Bush. Bush won with a pretty big margin in 2004.

Its completely ridiculous to suggest that Republicans control the voting system. The voting system is run at the local level and is controlled by county officials who are elected by the local people of that county. Once again you are showing your ignorance of how our government works. These county positions are filled by both Repulicans and Democrats and other party affiliates across the country. The State and Federal governments do not count votes! The county governments do. Maybe in a country like yours you don't understand this. The people are still in control of voting here, whether you believe it or not.

There is the posibility of fraud at the local levels. But the possibility of a federal or state takeover of the vote is a grand conspiracy theory with no justification of fact.

The so called fraud in 2000 was in counties in Florida that were controlled by Democrats. All those recounts in Florida were done by democrats. I would have to come to the conclusion that they were trying to "steal the election" since they were the ones in power.

Please stop being insulting. You can state your opinion about policy without being nasty towards legimately empowered politicians. if you must be angry be mad at all Americans. It is our system for better or worse.
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Post by Bad Kitty » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:17 am

I smell another "Hamas" thread brewing. And this time I'm staying well away.
Peace.

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