The Hall Inducties and

St August · Post by **St August** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:19 am

Vanhalen Update::

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ANNOUNCES INDUCTEES FOR 2007:
Press Release / New York -- The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation today announces its inductees for 2007. The inductees are:
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Kid Creole, Cowboy, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Mr. Ness, Raheim); R.E.M. (Bill Berry, Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe); The Ronettes (Estelle Bennett, Ronnie Spector, Nedra Talley); Patti Smith; Van Halen (Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, Alex Van Halen, Eddie Van Halen, David Lee Roth).
The five inductees will be honored at a ceremony on March 12, 2007 at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City. Presenters and performers at the induction will be announced in February, 2007.

robert · Post by **robert** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:23 am

R.E.M.- my god... they should call it "The Hall Of Lame"

Regards

Robert

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:30 am

I think REM is inducted for the message in their Lyrics, cause they are nowhere near VH in Musicianship. This is just like when Phildephia won the Oscar. Or when the the Color Puprle Lost to Out of Africa. A lot of award shows are like this.

If Van Halen had to wait this long, then REM should be till their 80s when they get inducted imnsho

They don't belong in the same class as VH. What an insult.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:31 am

mightymike wrote:I think REM is inducted for the message in their Lyrics, cause they are nowhere near VH in Musicianship. This is just like when Phildephia won the Oscar. Or when the the Color Puprle Lost to Out of Africa. A lot of award shows are like this.

If Van Halen had to wait this long, then REM should be till their 80s when they get inducted imnsho
They don't belong in the same class as VH. What an insult.

Yeah, and how about a separate (c)rap hall of fame? I hate that shit. There's no musicsianship about it (IMHO, of course)

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:42 am

Usually the band being honored plays.

It will be interesting to see who get's on stage to play bass.
Hopefully Michael Anthony doesn't get shut out of playing with the band
that night. He deserves to be there.

Wolfie and Sammy need to sit this one out imho.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:41 pm

Geez, you guys are bitching about REM.......it's like the first inductee totally slipped under your radar......lemme refresh your memory:

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Kid Creole, Cowboy, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Mr. Ness, Raheim)

These guys have had that huge a lasting impact on rock???????

I'll break out the REM records, thanks.

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:09 pm

who?... i'm with you chief, they could have a category for songs without notes.

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:37 pm

Flames1950 wrote:Geez, you guys are bitching about REM.......it's like the first inductee totally slipped under your radar......lemme refresh your memory:

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Kid Creole, Cowboy, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Mr. Ness, Raheim)

These guys have had that huge a lasting impact on rock???????

I'll break out the REM records, thanks.

I guess when you look at it that way.
Good Point...

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:40 pm

i think about this pretty often these days. bands that i would have normally never listened to seem don't seem near so bad by comparison to what i'm often subjected to. it's all relative i guess...

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:00 pm

Lets not forget the OJs that actually bitched and moaned their way in making them the biggest fucking pussies in the hall.

I like REM. Ill listen to them over almost anything youll hear on alternative or top40 radio. But next to VH its not even serious.

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:28 pm

i'm still waiting for hanson to get nominated

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:21 am

HA

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:40 am

Taking the melancholy out of R.E.M. ...

We all know inductance is about stats. The Grammy's on the other hand are voted upon by peers.

It's funny how I view the B.H.O.F. the same way.
I eventually say to myself... It's about frickin' time. I knew this player was gonna be there.

But just like the Roses, the Bonds, the Sosa's and even nominee McGwire you have to say to yourself some these bands being nominated
in the R.H.O.F. just don't belong.
I don't disagree that these other bands that were also inducted are not worthy but no one person has all the world languages on the tip of their tongue.
So, I say, I just don't understand, that's all. It's definitely bigger than me...

Just like R.E.M and Rap Artists' (using that as an example) They're in it for their lyrical message. Sure there's the musical talent, but, on the flipside of the coin
the Miles Davis' with their (musicianship) message don't have to "say" much do they...?

St August · Post by **St August** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:18 am

Just updating VH and the HAll..

SAMMY HAGAR TALKS HALL OF FAME:
More comments floating around following Van Halen getting the nod for the Hall Of Fame. First - Billboard.com reports:
Gary Graff, Detroit / Van Halen's appearance at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on March 12 "could go a lot of different ways," according to Sammy Hagar. That said, Hagar -- the group's second frontman, from 1985-96 -- tells Billboard.com he has high hopes that the famously combative group will take the high road on that particular night.
"My hope is that everyone lets everything go and we go there in complete respect of each other and in a loving way, with the attitude that 'I couldn't have done it without you' towards everybody," says Hagar, who received the official word of Van Halen's selection at his Cabo Wabo Cantina in Mexico, where he and Van Halen bassist Michael Anthony have spent the past week jamming with Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith in a newly developing side project called Chickenfoot.
But he also notes that, "The biggest fear for me is there'll be animosity and 'I won't talk to that guy' and maybe some harsh words towards each other or some sly remarks in speeches ... and it's not out of the question that that could happen. But in the end, no matter what happens, when you hear the music you're gonna go, 'That's one of the greatest rock'n'roll bands in the world, ever, and well-deserved the inauguration into the Hall of Fame."
Hagar says he hadn't spoken to anyone other than Anthony about the induction but planned to put in a congratulatory call to drummer Alex Van Halen. He expects that manager Irving Azoff "is gonna try to spin everyone together somehow" and says he'll "go with the flow" with induction ceremony plans, which Hagar expects will include a live Van Halen performance.
However, Hagar deemed talk of a Van Halen tour this year with original frontman David Lee Roth and guitarist Eddie Van Halen's 15-year-old son Wolfgang on bass speculative and voiced concern for that particular turn in the band's course.
"Wolfie's a great guy; I love Wolfie. But I don't think Van Halen should bring a 15-year-old kid to replace Sam, Dave and Michael Anthony," Hagar says. "That's a lot of pressure for Wolfie. Just 'cause he's Eddie's son doesn't mean he can go out and play in arenas and perform and entertain an audience for two hours. I would love to see Eddie and Alex get behind Wolfie, with a kid of his age singing, and produce the record for him and help him launch a career. I'd rather see it go that way than come out and say 'Wolfie's the bass player in Van Halen and maybe singing, too.' Van Halen's got way too much history to have that put on him."

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:10 pm

Someone needs to tell Yoko Jr. that they aren't being honored for the Hagar years. They should have a separate ceremony for that, 8 years from now. I'm afraid he's gonna jinx the reuinion.