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Post by rockstah » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:13 pm

i like the award shows. again u remember your parents saying ' they make it like they used to' its a sign of getting old. deal with it peoples. further more i love the fact that there are artists with different things to say.

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Post by mightymike » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:26 pm

zaphod777 wrote:
and the award has become a fucking joke because of it.
I thought the award was Always a joke.... Grammy, Emmy, Oscar, far more popularity based awards than skill/creativity based awards, How many times has the best of anything not even come close to winning, while popular shallow drivel runs away with the awards?
Most awards shows are a poor/shallow excuse for one group or another to sit around, slap each other on the back and give each other awards.


Although I do occasionally enjoy some of the performances, the live ones anyway, whats left of them... :wink:
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Post by JeffG. » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:42 pm

rockstah wrote: give me a fucking break! the dixie chicks won because of why? man o man. Hillary huh?
Spent some time listening to the album hey Mark?

One could debate talent/taste all day long, part of the reason I never get into the Yngwie mess.

The music business is a shitty business to be in for any type of real career. Talent w/no luck gets you nothing. Lots of talented people who never get anywhere. Lots of talented people who could never write a commercially successful song either.

Agreed?

There's lots of music I don't care for, but for the most part I respect anybody or group of bodys that manages to weave the gauntlet and actually have some form of success. Even those whose political views don't mesh with mine.

Had she stood up and said W. was the greatest thing since sliced bread - one sentence- one time - I wouldn't have been out there with the Taliban book burners trashing CDs....

To put it in perspective... they really didn't say much more then what you've said in this thread.

So what if your gig depended on you sucking up and apologizing all over yourself every other day to reporters. You get to lie through your teeth and say you didn't really mean it.

Is your gig worth that to you? Would you do it to keep your career intact? Better yet, you're not rolling the same dice they are by any stretch.. they are rolling - or throwing away - the great big fuzzy hanging in the Caddy dice. Mult-platinum, arena tour type careers.

And even if you wouldn't roll over for giving your opinion. Lets say you stood up for what you felt was your right to say...

Would you come back and write a platinum album.

After your main market has cut off all your radio play

Could you?

What the heck.. just get to gold with no market handicap... and you don't even have to win the Grammy(s)

Easier :wink:

Its America, people have views. People speak out. Its why this place used to be cool. Conspiring to financially crush someone who speaks out against their government is a tactic best left to Iran, Venezuala or any one of a number or countries that can come to mind.

Now, as for the album, the engineering/recording is good. And I mean damn good. The instrument separation in the mix is some of the best I've heard in a while. There are a lot of instruments, and they seem to have a particular bent for short-scaled instruments. Knowing how they recorded would be fascinating. But just the recording, when I heard the album, was enough to make me think it was Grammy worthy. And I bought it a week after release.

Its a bit too much country for me to take. At least all at once. I thought they were really going to go mainstream/pop, but it wasn't the case and for me I was left with about half an album I liked and half that I also liked but didn't play a lot.

Honestly I bought maybe 5 albums all year long that were actual 06 releases. So my sampling of the field for this year was pretty limited. But I'm not likely to talk smack about any of the nominations, not without one of the little gold dudes on my mantel.

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Post by yngwie308 » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:10 pm

Remember Jeff....just say no to Yngwie!! :lol: :lol:
Sorry for the,mess?
Everyone knows who likes whom in guitarists and I respect your non-involvement,seriously.

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Post by rockstah » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:11 pm

my whole take was just as much as people were tired of someone else getting it or not being worthy i was tired of the people that were complaining about it.

my thought was just cause it doesn

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Post by yngwie308 » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:22 pm

I thought it was great that Steve Stevens got a grammy for Top Gun theme,and Jeff Beck for Escape,those were cool grammies and well deserved,but quite a while ago!
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Post by St August » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:23 pm

Really I think none of it matters at all Its all Nonsense.... All that matters is the Music you make and how it makes you feel.. That what they are all doing.. I could care less whos saying this or that.. Do what you do and if someone likes it thats like getting your own Grammy.... Rock on 8)
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Post by BashCoder » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:57 am

I actually enjoyed the grammy awards show this year - that's two good ones in a row, and I normally HATE to watch them. The production quality was high and the sound was better than in years past. The singer/songwriter trio was really good, and I'm a big fan of (fellow Berklee alum) John Mayer.

The Police reunion was great, but I just don't get why we had to listen to three Justin Timberlake songs, two below-average covers of Eagles tunes (and a freaking Lionel Richie song), but we only got one song from the big headliner. They should have also done Message in a Bottle, like they did this week at their press conference. Two songs back-to-back is a good way to open a show, like that cool opening by Madonna & Gorillaz in the past.

Dixie Chicks are a great group, but the sweep was just silly. It's a good record, but not the best one released last year. This is the industry rallying around them while their concerts have been canceled coast-to-coast. I'm sorry: It's tough to call what Natalie Maines did -- to criticize Bush in London way back in 2003 -- "courageous". To criticize Bush in Europe is more of a cheap layup, kinda like yelling "How y'all doing tonight?" It's not some sort of courageous statement in that environment. They didn't exactly march hand-in-hand from Selma to Montgomery. They certainly didn't bargain on making news in the US with that comment. Regardless, the music industry is pretty liberal overall, and NARAS wanted to make their statement, which is fine. Now that Bush has horrible public opinion polls, the war is unpopular and an election cycle is brewing, it's safer politically and economically to do that. Still, they were able to do it in the guise of a positive award.

It was funny that they felt the need to announce Shakira's performance as "the first grammy performance by Shakira", since she's been doing this same "Hips Don't Lie" act in awards shows for a full year.

I enjoyed the special awards given to legends, especially Ornette Coleman -- how cool was that to see him on stage? Dude was STYLING too.

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Post by mightymike » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:53 am

+1 on the Police

I wish they would have dedicated more of the night in tribute to The God Father of Soul too.

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Post by JeffG. » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:26 am

Hey all... sorry to go off on a tangent. Bad day yesterday. I watched the company I work for go insolvent and people with 15+ years carrying boxes to their car in the middle of a blizzard. It was a really sad sight, and of course the door is right outside the window. Its not in me to watch a 50 year old woman lugging books through the snow.

Last thing I need to do is piss off the guys I'm going to need help from when I finally crack open these boxes from George.

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Post by rockstah » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:30 am

JeffG. wrote:Hey all... sorry to go off on a tangent. Bad day yesterday. I watched the company I work for go insolvent and people with 15+ years carrying boxes to their car in the middle of a blizzard. It was a really sad sight, and of course the door is right outside the window. Its not in me to watch a 50 year old woman lugging books through the snow.

Last thing I need to do is piss off the guys I'm going to need help from when I finally crack open these boxes from George.
hey man - i enjoyed your post. ;) ask anytime.

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Post by BashCoder » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:06 am

That about sums it all up perfectly.

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Post by BashCoder » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:32 am

BashCoder wrote:
That about sums it all up perfectly.
Actually, I'll amend:

The article is dead on except for the part about the F-U to Nashville and to country music. If that were true they would have snubbed Carrie Underwood.

It was in fact a big F-U to the legion of former fans who boycott their records and concerts, and the conservative pundits/talking heads on Fox News and talk radio who made it all such a big issue, adding fuel to the fire.

The music industry feels vulnerable on several fronts these days, and they are rallying around one of their own partly because of politics, and partly because they worry it could happen to them too. They now worry about activist fans in much the same way public companies worry about activist shareholders.

Folks forget that the Chicks weren't the only ones to have this happen to them. The following year Linda Ronstadt was booed off the stage when she played the Alladin in Vegas for making comments supporting the Michael Moore film Farenheight 9/11. And it didn't end there - she was escorted off the property on orders from the casino president (who was in the audience as they erupted), and he vows she'll never return. I was in Vegas that week and it was all anybody was talking about.

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Post by mightymike » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:36 am

A friend of mine was telling me how the people doing the Grammy voting are the so called "experts" in the music industry, and who was I to question it?

My reply was 2 words.

MILLI VANILLI!

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